Austin Trout talks options if he beats Canelo; Mayweather, move to 160.

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #31
    Why not just stay at 154? 160 is no man's land

    Trout would upset Sergio

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    • DLT
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      actually margarito, williams, pac and cotto were all welterweights whil floyd was a welterweight. he didn't wany any. sorry baldomir, ortiz, and gueerrero don't carry the same risk as them no matter how hard you pretend.

      they are in the same division. why shouldn't he fight them? you are admitting he only fights there when the cherries are ripe and some guys are too dangerous for him. so he won't fight the best at 147 or 154 and he's the greatest fighter alive? why?
      again, I truly believe the Margarito, Williams, Cotto things were bad timing. I said in the post above that there is no excuse for the Pac fight but I do think those other things were bad timing. The problem is fans want things when they want it. They want things now but I dont think a guy should do something now if its not the right time for it.

      Floyd was not the same guy at WW at that time then he was later on. He was such a small/weak WW early on. NO one is going to convince me that he wouldnt have been way more open to those fights at the time he fought Mosley. He was a more filled out guy then.

      Just look at the Cotto fight people. Look at how Floyd fought him. He went at Cotto and fought toe to toe. It had nothing to do with Cotto going through wars. It had to do with Floyd being phsyically differnt and with a different mindset. If Floyd fought guys like Cotto & Margarito back in the day he wouldve ran all fight.

      They couldve bullied him. He was that weak and didnt have that mindset. By time the Mosley fight came around, there wasnt any WW that was goign to bully him in the ring. Even if Cotto & Margarito were primed, he wouldve been way more open to it at that point.

      Now that is still no full excuse because its just like Im saying now about 154, Floyd shouldve gave up the belts and went down in weight. He didnt belong at WW then. He just didnt. He hurt his career alot with these jumps in weight and he would never go back down.

      The funny part is that he wouldve got killed for moving down just like he's getting killed now if he doesnt fight at 154

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        #33
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        I'm sorry, but this is coming to a rather ******ed crescendo. If Trout beats canelo, (which i think he will), then obviously the biggest fight in boxing is the winner of canelo/Trout facing Floyd. Floyd shouldn't have any excuses left. He's heavily favored over anyone at 147.

        People cannot keep claiming the guy is the best of an era then turn right around and defend him taking easy fights. That's why I was never a fan, nor i'll ever be until this guy dares to be great. There is absolutely no excuse left as to why he cannot fight the winner. Welterweight is at 1 of it's weakest era. Is Floyd gonna stay there now out of sheer coincidence??
        Ive explained my stance alot of times in this thread and on this forum so there is no use of repeating it but you cant penalyze the guy because others are weak. Its like what people use to do to Roy.

        The funny thing is these guys arent even all that weak. Its moreso that Floyd is great. Again, if nearly anyone else fought eachother then people would say its a great fight but if they fight Floyd then its nothing.

        Bush you try to have things both ways all the time. You act like a Cotto win isnt that great before Trout beat him. You also say Canelo hasnt done anything and clown him all the time. Now all of assudden then winner of that fight vs Floyd is the biggest in the sport?

        Also, if you are going to use sayings like "dare to be great" then make sure you keep it in that context. Thats the whole problem. I think that would be a dare to be great win for him but people will treat it more like its a regular win in a regular fight that he should fight. Its like its not special but its what he should do and I dont agree with that. I think its special if he decides to do it.
        Last edited by DLT; 03-24-2013, 10:49 PM.

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        • Jloro
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          #34
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          Why not just stay at 154? 160 is no man's land

          Trout would upset Sergio
          I like Trout but no he wouldn't lol
          Maybe if he would have dominated Cotto or if he KO's Canelo then he might have a chance

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          • Em1
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            #35
            so trout is moving to 160 with a win then. there is no way in hell floyd is fighting him

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            • Bigg Rigg
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              #36
              I'm more hyped then I thought I would be for this fight. Think mw is right around the corner too for Trout. He's a big jr mw. Met him downtown at the Cotto presser and I couldn't believe he fights at 154 pounds.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                I'm sorry, but this is coming to a rather ******ed crescendo. If Trout beats canelo, (which i think he will), then obviously the biggest fight in boxing is the winner of canelo/Trout facing Floyd. Floyd shouldn't have any excuses left. He's heavily favored over anyone at 147.

                People cannot keep claiming the guy is the best of an era then turn right around and defend him taking easy fights. That's why I was never a fan, nor i'll ever be until this guy dares to be great. There is absolutely no excuse left as to why he cannot fight the winner. Welterweight is at 1 of it's weakest era. Is Floyd gonna stay there now out of sheer coincidence??
                I understand the notion, I do.

                But here's what puzzles me at times about you, you're saying Mayweather just takes easy fights, he doesn't dare to be great. Ok, that's an opinion that I can understand. I disagree, but I can understand where someone were to be coming from if they thought that.

                But let's take a look at Mayweather last 3 fights and his upcoming fight;

                Mosley
                Ortiz
                Cotto
                Guererro.

                Now, let's consider that you consider these "easy fights" for Mayweather.

                Yet, you picked Mosley to beat Mayweather.

                You considered Ortiz to have a "Great shot" at beating Mayweather

                You made a thread about how Mayweather should fight Cotto, at 154, of course. Almost begging him to do so.

                You give Guererro a good chance of beating him too. You, in your own words, expect Guererro to "Give him hell".

                So, surely, in your eyes, you consider these hard fights, no? Not easy fights. According to your words I don't understand how you could consider these easy fights or risk free fights when your very words are saying literally the exact opposite prior to them happening.

                On another side note, you also expect Devon Alexander to "Give Mayweather hell" if they fight.

                So, I'm lost, basically.

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                • Jloro
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 1PunchKOPOW!
                  The guy has a shaky chin. Has been dropped in the amateurs. All 3 of those guys KO him. He can counter Chavez but he's nowhere near as fast as Martinez or as mobile. Chavez on sheer size and pressure beat him. And Golovkin can cut the ring off.
                  I like Trout but he definitely shouldn't fight these three guys lol he'd most likely get ****ed up. He might be able to beat chavez if he's careful and maybe GGG if he does good inthe Canelo fight.

                  I would prefer him to just beat on some other guys and maybe MW's like Macklin Murray Lee Barker

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                  • ricky1978
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                    #39
                    go ahead and move up to 160. Martinez will be waiting for you with open arms....


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                    • Barry Halls
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                      #40
                      I already like the middleweight division and what it has to offer. The main problem is that all these contenders don't fight eachother.

                      Trout moving to 160 would be good.

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