Austin Trout talks options if he beats Canelo; Mayweather, move to 160.

[Barry Halls]

Why not just stay at 154? 160 is no man's land

Trout would upset Sergio

It's not that bad.

Martinez, Golovkin, Quillin, JCC jr, Pirog and a bunch of heavy hitters.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by 1PunchKOPOW!

The guy has a shaky chin. Has been dropped in the amateurs. All 3 of those guys KO him. He can counter Chavez but he's nowhere near as fast as Martinez or as mobile. Chavez on sheer size and pressure beat him. And Golovkin can cut the ring off.

I like Trout but he definitely shouldn't fight these three guys lol he'd most likely get ****ed up. He might be able to beat chavez if he's careful and maybe GGG if he does good inthe Canelo fight.

I would prefer him to just beat on some other guys and maybe MW's like Macklin Murray Lee Barker

There's no way in hell Trout beats Martinez unless Martinez has really fallen off. His power will not keep Chavez off of him, Chavez would pummel him. GGG is his best shot but Cotto was able to move Trout back a few times and GGG can cut the ring off too. He has more power and is fresher than Cotto as well. Reason I give Trout a chance GGG is caude of his lack of head movement and he seems to fade as the rounds go on.

With all that said, I'm still picking Trout over Canelo. Canelo isn't as fast as Martinez, he doesn't have Chavez's size nor GGG's power and he has pretty bad D with questionable stamina.


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[Jloro]

There's no way in hell Trout beats Martinez unless Martinez has really fallen off. His power will not keep Chavez off of him, Chavez would pummel him. GGG is his best shot but Cotto was able to move Trout back a few times and GGG can cut the ring off too. He has more power and is fresher than Cotto as well. Reason I give Trout a chance GGG is caude of his lack of head movement and he seems to fade as the rounds go on.

With all that said, I'm still picking Trout over Canelo. Canelo isn't as fast as Martinez, he doesn't have Chavez's size nor GGG's power and he has pretty bad D with questionable stamina.


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I agree

[Bushbaby]

Ive explained my stance alot of times in this thread and on this forum so there is no use of repeating it but you cant penalyze the guy because others are weak. Its like what people use to do to Roy.

The funny thing is these guys arent even all that weak. Its moreso that Floyd is great. Again, if nearly anyone else fought eachother then people would say its a great fight but if they fight Floyd then its nothing.

Bush you try to have things both ways all the time. You act like a Cotto win isnt that great before Trout beat him. You also say Canelo hasnt done anything and clown him all the time. Now all of assudden then winner of that fight vs Floyd is the biggest in the sport?

Also, if you are going to use sayings like "dare to be great" then make sure you keep it in that context. Thats the whole problem. I think that would be a dare to be great win for him but people will treat it more like its a regular win in a regular fight that he should fight. Its like its not special but its what he should do and I dont agree with that. I think its special if he decides to do it.

I've never acted like Cotto win wasn't dat great before Trout beat him.

I understand the notion, I do.

But here's what puzzles me at times about you, you're saying Mayweather just takes easy fights, he doesn't dare to be great. Ok, that's an opinion that I can understand. I disagree, but I can understand where someone were to be coming from if they thought that.

But let's take a look at Mayweather last 3 fights and his upcoming fight;

Mosley
Ortiz
Cotto
Guererro.

Now, let's consider that you consider these "easy fights" for Mayweather.

Yet, you picked Mosley to beat Mayweather.

You considered Ortiz to have a "Great shot" at beating Mayweather

You made a thread about how Mayweather should fight Cotto, at 154, of course. Almost begging him to do so.

You give Guererro a good chance of beating him too. You, in your own words, expect Guererro to "Give him hell".

So, surely, in your eyes, you consider these hard fights, no? Not easy fights. According to your words I don't understand how you could consider these easy fights or risk free fights when your very words are saying literally the exact opposite prior to them happening.

On another side note, you also expect Devon Alexander to "Give Mayweather hell" if they fight.

So, I'm lost, basically.

I always go for the underdog Iron Dan. Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto and The Ghost are the fights I'm gonna get from Floyd. I can't change it. It may be lying to myself but what other choice do I have?

[The Big Dunn]

I've never acted like Cotto win wasn't dat great before Trout beat him.



I always go for the underdog Iron Dan. Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto and The Ghost are the fights I'm gonna get from Floyd. I can't change it. It may be lying to myself but what other choice do I have?

You have the choice of not *****ing and complaining for 6 months about things before they happen. You just try to make everything fighters that you dont like do fit your sig so you can somehow justify your criticism.

You like to be premature in your criticism. SO months before the fight is signed you come up with crap like Mosley will beat FLoyd so floyd wont fight him or Ginger is scared of Trout. Then as soon as the fight is signed and you look like a complete and utter tool, then you talk about the fights potential so you come of as more a boxing fan than some internet jackoff that just wasted 6-8 months *****ing about something you swore wouldnt happen.

The thing is you are more knowledgable than most on this board so you of all people should know that fights take time to get signed because promoters and managers are trying to get the most for their fighters.

You are trying too hard to hate those at the top when every fighter in boxing is trying to get there too. You hate the system but ***** about the fighters who really have no option but to operate within it.

Complaining about what the top dogs do isnt the same as rooting for the underdog. Floyd and canelo would be underdogs to Trout just as cotto was and you damn sure wouldn't root for either of them.

[DosRounds]

It seems like he is going up to 160 to avoid erislandy lara

[Bushbaby]

You have the choice of not *****ing and complaining for 6 months about things before they happen. You just try to make everything fighters that you dont like do fit your sig so you can somehow justify your criticism.

You like to be premature in your criticism. SO months before the fight is signed you come up with crap like Mosley will beat FLoyd so floyd wont fight him or Ginger is scared of Trout. Then as soon as the fight is signed and you look like a complete and utter tool, then you talk about the fights potential so you come of as more a boxing fan than some internet jackoff that just wasted 6-8 months *****ing about something you swore wouldnt happen.

The thing is you are more knowledgable than most on this board so you of all people should know that fights take time to get signed because promoters and managers are trying to get the most for their fighters.

You are trying too hard to hate those at the top when every fighter in boxing is trying to get there too. You hate the system but ***** about the fighters who really have no option but to operate within it.

Complaining about what the top dogs do isnt the same as rooting for the underdog. Floyd and canelo would be underdogs to Trout just as cotto was and you damn sure wouldn't root for either of them.

Thing is, I don't really care what you think. I also understand that half the board doesn't like to hear what's what. No matter how much they know it's true. No matter how you, or all the canelo supporters try and say that I made up canelo not wanting to face Trout, the fact is you know he didn't. You know he went out of his way to try and avoid the fight. The fact is that it's because of boxing fans like me and the outcry and bashing his team received is the reason why he decided to finally fight Trout.

The facts are that team canelo said they were training back in January for a fight in april.

The fact are that team canelo said they were looking at 4 opponents besides Trout.

The facts are that team canelo said that they were not gonna fight on the Floyd undercard and were probably not gonna fight trout altogether. These are indisputable facts.

But now that he's finally signed the fight, all his fanboys (and even some Floyd fanboys) like you, act like I made all dat $h1t up. Which is fine by me, I don't care cause you, dem and I know canelo didn't wanna fight him.

Concerning floyd, a case would have to be made for any opponent he se;lects having a chance to beat him. I route against Floyd, that's what I do. I'm not ashamed of that. I have no choice but to pick for the other fighter. Why, cause he ain't neva gonna fight the guys that people actually want him to fight. But don't worry, he has all the excuse makers who act like his accountants & act like they are his advisers or partners with Al Haymond, (like yourself), to make up his excuses for him.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I've never acted like Cotto win wasn't dat great before Trout beat him.



I always go for the underdog Iron Dan. Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto and The Ghost are the fights I'm gonna get from Floyd. I can't change it. It may be lying to myself but what other choice do I have?

So you're rooting for Mayweather to beat Trout? If it comes off.

[Ido]

Now lets not get ahead of yourselves. Undoubtedly Canelo Kills him. But 3G murders him.

[boliodogs]

As long as making 154 is not hurting his performance he should not move up to 160. Being a big 154 pounder works to his advantage. He is a skilled boxer with good height and reach for 154. He is not a big puncher and he can be hurt by a good puncher. At 160 he would have no advantage over many of the middleweights in height and reach and not have the power to hurt the tougher ones. He would be fighting some very good punchers in GGG, Martinez, Pirog, Chavez and Quillin and might get KOed.