Top 10 Heavyweights of all times.

[LacedUp]

I beg to disagree.

What Wlad did (just resume-wise) is way too much under-rated. By the end of his career I think I'll have him firmly in top5.

H2H wise I have only two fighters that I would favor against prime Wlad. That's clearly Ali and that's very prime Tyson (but only because I think that's the worst possible match-up for Wlad).

Resume wise, Wlad doesn't come close to many fighters' resumes. H2H he's definitely up there, but guys like Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Tyson and Vitali are better IMO. I rate him for longevity but he doesn't have any hall of famers or ATGs on his résumé. Everyone else do, and that's the difference for me. It's hard to say how good he is, because his opposition has been limited and he was still ko'd 3 times.

[JAB5239]

I beg to disagree.

What Wlad did (just resume-wise) is way too much under-rated. By the end of his career I think I'll have him firmly in top5.

H2H wise I have only two fighters that I would favor against prime Wlad. That's clearly Ali and that's very prime Tyson (but only because I think that's the worst possible match-up for Wlad).

Simple question. What did Wlads best wins accomplish before or after Wlad? Which did they beat? And his ko losses to Sanders and Brewster will prevent him from ever being top 5. Like I said, he has a good chance to break the top 10 based on longevity, but top 5 is a BIG stretch.

[Simurgh]

Resume wise, Wlad doesn't come close to many fighters' resumes. H2H he's definitely up there, but guys like Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Tyson and Vitali are better IMO. I rate him for longevity but he doesn't have any hall of famers or ATGs on his résumé. Everyone else do, and that's the difference for me. It's hard to say how good he is, because his opposition has been limited and he was still ko'd 3 times.

I really don't put that much on TKO losses. All the above listed have been TKOed/KOed too.

Longevity is quite impressive, but it's just one part of Wlad's excellence. I don't see him lacking in any department.

[JAB5239]

Resume wise, Wlad doesn't come close to many fighters' resumes. H2H he's definitely up there, but guys like Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Tyson and Vitali are better IMO. I rate him for longevity but he doesn't have any hall of famers or ATGs on his résumé. Everyone else do, and that's the difference for me. It's hard to say how good he is, because his opposition has been limited and he was still ko'd 3 times.

Lol you beat me to it by a few seconds!

[Simurgh]

Simple question. What did Wlads best wins accomplish before or after Wlad? Which did they beat? And his ko losses to Sanders and Brewster will prevent him from ever being top 5. Like I said, he has a good chance to break the top 10 based on longevity, but top 5 is a BIG stretch.

Wlad did beat quite a few champions. I can go through the list but I am sure you know it very well.

I don't see many (if any) ATGs not being KOed/TKOed during the whole career - so it's not a massive figure of merit.
It's a big stretch in your opinion. He'll be there quite comfortably IMO.

[Good Boy]

wlad will make the top 10 in due time. id have no problem with him overtaking guys like dempsey

[DreamFighter]

wow why are a few people misled enough to put Wlad in a top ten? He gets destroyed against fatboys (not primes like other ATGs) and fails to revenge the losses (which other ATGs generally do). I guess Klitlikers don't think logically.

Wlad may make it into the top ten yet based ONLY on longevity (since he doesn't have anything else he can claim that's outstanding). He brings more the table as a wrestler than as a boxer skillwise, but that's not to say hes bad.

Good luck to him though, you never know with luck or something stronger he might just sc**** in one day. Wlad has never even beaten a real world champion yet and hes been around 17 years! That's pathetic, all the ATGs that Wlad is poorly compared to beat a champion in their first year or so of reigning.

Anyway -

1. Louis
2. Ali
2. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Marciano
6. Johnson
7. Tyson
8. Dempsey
9. Frazier
10. Holyfield?

[JAB5239]

Wlad did beat quite a few champions. I can go through the list but I am sure you know it very well.

I don't see many (if any) ATGs not being KOed/TKOed during the whole career - so it's not a massive figure of merit.
It's a big stretch in your opinion. He'll be there quite comfortably IMO.

Wlad never beat the man who beat the man. And his list of paper titlists is weak. You didn't answer my question. Who did THEY beat before and after Wlad?

As far as ATG's who were stopped.....you have to take the time in their careers and circumstances into the equation.

[Good Boy]

wow why are a few people misled enough to put Wlad in a top ten? He gets destroyed against fatboys (not primes like other ATGs) and fails to revenge the losses (which other ATGs generally do). I guess Klitlikers don't think logically.

Wlad may make it into the top ten yet based ONLY on longevity (since he doesn't have anything else he can claim that's outstanding) and also if can set some HOF record that he has yet to accomplish, but he wont do it if he keeps fighting tomato cans like Wach and Piano. Good luck to him though, you never know with luck or something stronger he might just sc**** in one day. Wlad has never even beaten a real world champion yet and hes been around 17 years! That's pathetic, all the other ATGs beat a champion in their first year or so of reigning.

Anyway -

1. Louis
2. Ali
2. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Marciano
6. Johnson
7. Tyson
8. Dempsey
9. Frazier
10. Holyfield?

you talk about ducking and losing to stiffs yet you have tyson and dempsey in your top 10?

[JAB5239]

wlad will make the top 10 in due time. id have no problem with him overtaking guys like dempsey

Nor do I. I don't even have Dempsey in the top 10. I rate him at 12 behind Frazier at 11.