Why is Hopkins not suspected of PED's

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  • Scarcaztic
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    #141
    Originally posted by Cupocity303
    No, I enjoy taking ignorant little nitwit's like you to the woodshed. As long as you keep putting forth something that is worth rebutting, I will keep replying. That's how it works on message boards. You're the one taking this personal.

    And your street talk-esque typing as if you're jiving back and forth on a corner isn't impressing anyone. Lets clean it up and type a little more neatly.
    Stop throwing a hissy fit. No need to be so enraged buddy.

    Like I said before. Calm yo nerves child.
    Last edited by Scarcaztic; 03-10-2013, 06:16 PM.

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    • ИATAS
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      #142
      Originally posted by edgarg
      There isn't a single guy in boxing history at ANY weight, except Holyfield, who has looked anything near what Hopkins looks like by age 48. Maybe Schwartzenegger......

      I wonder why no food supplement company, nor organic food company has approached him about endorsements.....

      The most famous natural foods/vegetarianism guru in history, advisor to the whole of Hollywood, royalty, etc.who made vegetarianism popular, Gaylord Hauser, was caught one time stuffing himself with a huge steak in an obscure resturant. It ruined his business. Are we to believe that it was the first time he "slipped".... I'd believe Hauser before Hopkins any day.....
      So now you're comparing Hopkins body to Holyfield and Schwarzenegger?! Lmao cmon man look at Hopkins body.

      Kid Azteca had an amazing post 40 year old career. He finished his last 8 fights he went 7-0-1 and retired at 48 and was always in shape.

      Kid Azteca: Record after age 40: 25-1-2 (22)
      Last edited by ИATAS; 03-10-2013, 06:40 PM.

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      • edgarg
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        #143
        Originally posted by ИATAS
        If Hopkins was a Top Rank fighter you wouldn't be saying any of this ****.
        You might think so, but even if that were the case-which it's not- I think I'd make an exception for Hopkins. I have always really liked Holyfield, but fact are facts and I respect truth.

        My advocacy for Top Rank is based on respect for the truth, and I've written nothing about them which is not fact which were published on THIS site, as well as things that I know personally to be true. Just correcting the prejudiced comments of others. So it comes out that way, otherwise I have nothing in common with an 81 year old promotor whom I don't know.

        You may notice that I have never written a single word about Oscar and his feminine dressing or other vulgarities, nor indeed anything except what has been in articles on this site. And I really do not like nor admire Oscar. The same with Mayweather, I only state facts known to all, but ignored by those who are "star-struck". i never get that way about anyone.

        People confuse boxing with "sport". It's a very loose definition, and only valid because there are also amateurs. Even there, they are compensated these days in various ways. When I was boxing it WAS sport, and we'd fight in a league, maybe a dozen times for a trumpery little cup or piece of brass on a wooden shield. Even professionals, fighting for money, had pride, and defended the reputations of their cities or countries. That's rare today, and very suspect because of the enormous amounts of money involved.

        Professional boxing is really an entertainment business, satisfying peoples' lust for vicarious "blood". The boxers represent only themselves. Trinidad was an exception, I believe he really felt he represented Puerto Rico..

        As far as Hopkins is concerned, I just don't like him, but if he looked the way he should normally look, I would never even speculate about him being a drug user.

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        • edgarg
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          #144
          Originally posted by S. Saddler 1310
          you're right, he actually loves a pint and can be found fuelling up on chicken with waffles and ice-cream on an average day and on Twinkies and Twix during training camp.



          eh?



          taking other men to the bathroom is usual for you, Ed?
          I should have qualified my Holyfield comment by adding "bodywise" but i mistakenly assumed that everybody would have enough "smarts" to understand. And yes, I do/did accompany men to the bathroom, right up to the age of about 2. I'm talking about my children, in case you wilfully misconstrue again, in your humourous mood......

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          • jaded
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            #145
            There are boxers much younger than Hopkins who we know have taken PED's and could not have beaten Hopkins last night. You have to give him his due...it takes much more than PED's to box like that at any age...he is a master. If it were all about PED's then why is it that there are no other boxers/athletes his age who can perform like that. It's not like others wouldn't at least try to get away with PED's at 48 if they could be like that...but no others can. You have to be crazy not to see that he is unlike anyone else...even if he using something.

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            • Ray*
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              #146
              I have to be su****ious. Don't care what anybody says about how he lives a saint life etc I just don't think he is all natural.

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                #147
                Originally posted by ИATAS
                So now you're comparing Hopkins body to Holyfield and Schwarzenegger?! Lmao cmon man look at Hopkins body.

                Kid Azteca had an amazing post 40 year old career. He finished his last 8 fights he went 7-0-1 and retired at 48 and was always in shape.

                Kid Azteca: Record after age 40: 25-1-2 (22)
                It's interesting that you should say that. I actually had Kid Azteca (and a few others) in mind when I posted. it was Azteca I first thought of, and am surprised you know about him. It was years before I found out his real name was Villanova. I followed him for about 20 years or so, always looked for his results. I used to buy RING and Boxing illustrated (from 1st issue). We didn't have internet then. Always thought he was amazing because in those days fighters generally retired around 30-ish.

                But he never looked remotely like hopkins even in his younger days, he had a body similar to Gaspar Ortega.
                Last edited by edgarg; 03-10-2013, 07:07 PM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by jaded
                  There are boxers much younger than Hopkins who we know have taken PED's and could not have beaten Hopkins last night. You have to give him his due...it takes much more than PED's to box like that at any age...he is a master. If it were all about PED's then why is it that there are no other boxers/athletes his age who can perform like that. It's not like others wouldn't at least try to get away with PED's at 48 if they could be like that...but no others can. You have to be crazy not to see that he is unlike anyone else...even if he using something.
                  But thats the point. BH is a excellent boxer, but being an excellent boxer will on take you so far. The fact is when you get older, you aint got the stamina, strenghth, chin etc etc for what it takes to compete.

                  Bh has got the stamina and reflexes of a young man thats why there is su****ion.

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                  • ИATAS
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by edgarg
                    It's interesting that you should say that. I actually had Kid Azteca (and a few others) in mind when I posted. it was Azteca I first thought of, and am surprised you know about him. It was years before I found out his real name was Villanova. I followed him for about 20 years or so, always looked for his results. I used to buy RING and Boxing illustrated (from 1st issue). We didn't have internet then. Always thought he was amazing because in those days fighters generally retired around 30-ish.
                    I respect you edgarg, you obviously go way back but I've always felt you had a negative opinion of Hopkins and this may lead you to come to some of these conclusions. And yes, I am a fan of Hopkins and have for almost 20 years now so I'm biased as well.

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                    • edgarg
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by ИATAS
                      So now you're comparing Hopkins body to Holyfield and Schwarzenegger?! Lmao cmon man look at Hopkins body.

                      Kid Azteca had an amazing post 40 year old career. He finished his last 8 fights he went 7-0-1 and retired at 48 and was always in shape.

                      Kid Azteca: Record after age 40: 25-1-2 (22)
                      I had Kid Azteca in mind when I posted. I used to follow his fights when I realised he wasn't retiring at the usual 32-33 year age. I always looked for his results in RING and Boxing Illustrated, both of which I had subscriptions to. It was years before I found out his real name.

                      His body didn't look anything remotely like Hopkins, even in his younger days, more like Gaspar Ortega's.
                      Last edited by edgarg; 03-10-2013, 07:17 PM. Reason: Sorry for duplication, computer problem.

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