Why is Hopkins not suspected of PED's

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  • cupocity303
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    #41
    Originally posted by hectari
    I'm giving B hop the benefit of the doubt, is he questionable at his age sure, but I think he has cherry picked guys who make him look good. Teddy Atlas has said it best about Hopkins he is like an illusion at his age he can get away with fighting raw one dimensional low boxing IQ fighters and people will praise him. Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson, Cloud were all tailor made for Hopkins all these guys are either hesitant or mental midgets in the ring when they can't figure you out. If you notice B hop said no amount of money they could give him to fight Andre Ward lol, he knows Ward would figure him out, and he even decided not to fight that Russian guy who knocked out that slick boxer who beat Cloud.

    If There were any Mexican fighters at 175 who had fearless aggression like Margarito or Rios, Hopkins age would show, Calzaghe made Hopkins look old cause of the pressure he applied this is why Pavliks people thought they could capitalize on him thinking he was on the decline but its not true it was a stylistic match up that is bad for Hopkins. You have to really smother him bad and out work Hopkins like Calzaghe did.

    I would have loved to see Hopkins versus Kessler, Bute or Froch

    If I where Bernard Hopkins I would have done the VADA year round testing to prove to everyone doubting him that he is in fact legit.

    JMM on the other hand is obvious he is possibly juicing, dudes physique changes at his age are unreal, his ability to take punches and deliver knock downs to a guy who he never dropped in his life was highly suspect, plus he aligned himself with Memo a known ped chemist who moved to Mexico and continued to cheat in sports even after giving testimony.

    Dude even changed his name lol thinking nobody would know its him.
    Even though I don't agree with specific points you made in this post, I get your overall premise and will co-sign.

    The ability Hopkins has now will not beat every style out there. The rounds he won tonight were clearly his. That's why all 3 judges had it almost the same. He can't win clear rounds against every style and fighter like he did tonight.

    With that said, even against Calzaghe or anyone else you named, he will ALWAYS make it tough to score. Whether it's Calzaghe , Taylor or Dawson, he always made it tough to score and they never had their way with him. PERIOD. He will never be dominated or knocked out. That much he has proven.
    Last edited by cupocity303; 03-10-2013, 01:15 AM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by MANIAC310
      -Marquez beats a guy he already beat at 39 while willing to get tested = PEDs Cheater

      -Hopkins beats a young undefeated champ at 48 and has refused testing in the past = Clean HOF GOAT
      That's a pretty generalized statement. If I recall a poll was done and like 80% of people voted that Marquez was clean.

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      • Bretty Poy32
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        #43
        Originally posted by Cupocity303

        He meant as in eating right.


        does he drink red wine?

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          #44
          Originally posted by inITtoWINit
          C'mon son. You're being a lawyer right now. LOL.

          I like B-Hop, and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. That's all. I won't take it any further.
          But you an armchair expert in boxing fairyland , it dont matter who you doubt .

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            #45
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            But you an armchair expert in boxing fairyland , it dont matter who you doubt .
            You still butt hurt about the "catch weights" thread???

            Looks like I gotta fan. Welcome to the fan club.

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              #46
              Originally posted by inITtoWINit
              C'mon son. You're being a lawyer right now. LOL.

              I like B-Hop, and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. That's all. I won't take it any further.

              You didn't challenge what I said. Why validate an accusation? The whole PED movement started based on observation. I.E. Pac's head, his physique, his chin, his power, his speed, his endurance. Has Hopkins not showed that he gets tired? Has he not went down when a clean punch connected? (Pascal). Has he showed improvement in workrate over the years? No.

              No basis for it other than for the sake of making the general accusation because he still here at 48. Maybe there would be something to it if he were someone who lives a bad lifestyle and lets himself go in between fights. But he doesn't. So all that can be attributed to natural, organic hard work, don't you think?

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                #47
                Theyre all cheating. Every top boxer.

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                  #48
                  lol I feel like Hopkins doesn't look or act like he's using PED's. People only say that about Marqurz because he went from not knocking down Manny at all to Knocking him out cold in 6 rounds. He also came in Ripped. I don't think he did steroids but you can see how a case could be made. I wouldn't be surprised if he did though.

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                    #49
                    Not saying this proves anything, but Hopkins did transform is body in half a year after the Taylor loss. And he did not have any flab on him.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      I'm giving B hop the benefit of the doubt, is he questionable at his age sure, but I think he has cherry picked guys who make him look good. Teddy Atlas has said it best about Hopkins he is like an illusion at his age he can get away with fighting raw one dimensional low boxing IQ fighters and people will praise him. Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson, Cloud were all tailor made for Hopkins all these guys are either hesitant or mental midgets in the ring when they can't figure you out. If you notice B hop said no amount of money they could give him to fight Andre Ward lol, he knows Ward would figure him out, and he even decided not to fight that Russian guy who knocked out that slick boxer who beat Cloud.

                      If There were any Mexican fighters at 175 who had fearless aggression like Margarito or Rios, Hopkins age would show, Calzaghe made Hopkins look old cause of the pressure he applied this is why Pavliks people thought they could capitalize on him thinking he was on the decline but its not true it was a stylistic match up that is bad for Hopkins. You have to really smother him bad and out work Hopkins like Calzaghe did.

                      I would have loved to see Hopkins versus Kessler, Bute or Froch

                      If I where Bernard Hopkins I would have done the VADA year round testing to prove to everyone doubting him that he is in fact legit.

                      JMM on the other hand is obvious he is possibly juicing, dudes physique changes at his age are unreal, his ability to take punches and deliver knock downs to a guy who he never dropped in his life was highly suspect, plus he aligned himself with Memo a known ped chemist who moved to Mexico and continued to cheat in sports even after giving testimony.

                      Dude even changed his name lol thinking nobody would know its him.
                      Nice theory but hopkins never cherry picked anyone. He's fought all the champions at 175 or champions tha moved up to his weight. Not his fault if sometimes those champions have weaknesses he cfan exploit. Sometimes it doesn't go his way. Teddy Atlas is a **** anyway

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