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the nba doesnt pick white players on purpose even james worthy admitted that. the nfl doesnt pick whites because colleges wont even recruit whites for skill positions as a rule. that is why the best white players in the nfl were all walk ons in college. whites win 90 percent of the medals at the summmer and winter olympics. brainwashed white clowns like you should just give up because you are too worthless and brainwashed by the zionists whose plan was to give everything to blacks to encourage miscegenation and achieve communism sooner.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Taking a dodgy SD against old man Popkins is one thing, but it's the events that came about after that.
Joe was undefeated in arguably one of the worst divisions at any moment/division in history outside the Cruiserweight during his reign.
He should have made the move to the states to fight RJJ/Hopkins and even Toney if he really wanted to during the early 2000's.
But the fact that he waited till RJJ was ridiculous shot to bits and Hopkins couldn't even get a data on HBO Or Showtime pretty much says it all.
Not to mention that after he left Warren, Warren came out with details of how Joe was content on facing sub-par opposition in the UK and "pulled out" with excuses (fake injury i believe) against Glen Johnson after he totalled RJJ .
Was it a good win? In an Engineered career, sure.
In History? Joe wasted his talentComment
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Many felt Hopkins won, but still a good win. The problem is Joe only had like 4 good wins his whole career.Comment
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When Pavlik sees a moving target, the only thing he can hit is the bottle.
I thought Bore Hard was unlucky not to get the decision against Slapsie, but it shows you how good Slapsie was that he was in a competitive fight there... and no one else has ever pretended to bum Hopkins.Comment
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Great win on paper, but Hopkins won that fight.
Throwing a load of arm punches and hitting fresh air mixed with shoulders is not my definition of winning. Hopkins done the good work, landed the meaningful shots and should have got the decision.Comment
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thats rich..
in all seriousness, i can see how it may look that way to the untrained eye of someone who is new to the sport. hopefully one day you will understand the sweet science that is boxing and learn how to score a fight so you can see it for what it truly was.
a boxing lesson.Comment
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looool the Americans didn't want to take a risk on a little known champion from wales. Hopkins was notoriously difficult to sign a fight with and Jones just wasn't interested. Calzaghe is NOT to blame for promoters ignoring him, it's not like he was a boring fighter.Comment
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Did one of the commentators of the Hopkins/cloud fight say that you just have to throw lots of punches to win (refering to how Cloud threw 70 punches one round to only outland Hopkins by one punch).
I dont want to get into the "but he slapped" topic but Joe threw 700 punches and landed about 230 punches..you just have to keep throwing because you're not going to ko Hopkins. Hopkins got outworked. Great win for Joe.Comment
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he actually was a boring fighter to watch, technically rather crude (nearly wrote 'crood', looking forward to that movie lol), relying on reflexes to outgun poor opponents and fitness to outlast the better ones. This meant he struggled to promote his fights outside Wales until he was 35, which is the resume of a national champion, not a world champ. He NEVER chased pedigree American fighters until the comparatively novice middler Lacy turned up, although a Hopkins fight was on the table for a while until Bhop wanted more money - so it was never the USA's best at fault for him not fighting them. Joe admitted that he'd have got beaten by prime Roy and only chased him when he was shot2****. Prime Bhop would have done the same to him.
Shame because hes a good package all things considered, just not great skillwise. You could argue that possessing the WBO title held him back, or perhaps it helped him outreach himself, it gave a notsohot boxer a chance to possess a title that he didn't early on have the ability to take from a major governing body. To my mind, what held him back was him wanting zero losses, so that he picked **** fighters to defend against until he was in his mid-30s. That's middling for a British champion, let alone a world champ.
He did well for Wales and in Britain, and gave some much needed credence to the initially non-valued WBO belt in his last few years.
SO for Calzaghe's expected level of opps (ie regularly outside top ten) it is a good win.Last edited by DreamFighter; 03-10-2013, 04:01 PM.Comment
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Well it's not like Calzaghe dominated or even looked good. I personally had Hopkins winning, but nonetheless it's the best win of Joe's career. It was a chit fight though.Comment
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