Has Sergio Martinez beatin any class A fighters?

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  • letsgobrady
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    #41
    Originally posted by RedDevil5
    He also lost to Margarito
    and margarito who doesn't duck anyone didn't want to give sergio a rematch

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    • letsgobrady
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      #42
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      ....Nishioka, Mathebula

      In a year and a half, he has beaten the top fighter from 3 consecutive divisions
      nishioka and mathebula are class A fighters? maybe nishioka at one point but mathebula sure as hell does not fall under that category and this has nothing to do with donaire but more about you can arguably say most fighters are not fighting class A fighters not just sergio

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      • letsgobrady
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        #43
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        ....Nishioka, Mathebula

        In a year and a half, he has beaten the top fighter from 3 consecutive divisions
        who was the top fighter he beat at 118? i thought darchinyan,mares,agbeko and perez were the top fighters at 118

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #44
          Originally posted by letsgobrady
          who was the top fighter he beat at 118? i thought darchinyan,mares,agbeko and perez were the top fighters at 118
          the only high quality wins he has as of late are nishi and montiel. guys like vasquez and mathebula definitely shouldnt count much towards anthing, they are b- at best.

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #45
            Originally posted by letsgobrady
            nishioka and mathebula are class A fighters? maybe nishioka at one point but mathebula sure as hell does not fall under that category and this has nothing to do with donaire but more about you can arguably say most fighters are not fighting class A fighters not just sergio
            Mathebula was #4 at 122, nishioka was #1. Who fought "class A" fighters last year? Nishioka was #1 at 122 for 3 years

            Theres a reason he won FOTY last year He hasnt faced all "A'' but who has? Now Rigo is next
            Originally posted by letsgobrady
            who was the top fighter he beat at 118? i thought darchinyan,mares,agbeko and perez were the top fighters at 118
            He was ranked P4P #6, Montiel

            Also Vic was never a top 118 fighter

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #46
              Williams and Pavlik were both quality wins and he did it in a space of a year and rightfully won FOTY that year.

              Other than he hasn't done much but he does have some solid wins.

              I also thought he beat Williams the first time and should obviously have the W over Cintron.

              Chavez, Macklin, Dzinzurik are also solid wins.

              But to answer your question other than Williams and Pavlik I would say no.

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              • -Kev-
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                #47
                Originally posted by FeFist
                Paul Williams is not an A- fighter. A- would be the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos of the boxing world. Sensational fighters who are a notch beneath ATGs such as Ali, Duran and Hagler.

                Pavlik isn't B class either, fighters like De La Hoya and Mosley fall into that category.

                Paul Williams is a C class fighter who should be grouped with fighters like Miguel Cotto and Vargas. Fighters who had a good run and achieved more than the above average fighter.

                Pavlik is a D class fighter, amongst the likes of Zab Judah and Jermain Taylor.

                I've always felt that people were too generous in the way that they rate fighters. It belittles the accomplishment of the sports actual greats.
                Lol that is a bit of a harsh grading bro. I'd hate for you to be my professor

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                • RiC-DiC
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                  #48
                  Yeah, he would earn my respect by fighting Ward, but that would end his career.

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                  • mathed
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by footwork
                    Martinez is a very talented fighter,fast and hits with power.Thar being said his resume is thin,very thin and he seems uninterested in fighting the top 3 middleweights and keeps calling out smaller fighters instead of looking for a clash with Ward.
                    Do we need to go through this again? Obviously we do, Ward himself said Martinez is a small MW and is too small to fight him....Ward said that....HIMSELF.

                    Ward is also the guy that fought the 175 pound champ at 168 while you are on the topic of fighters disadvantaging other fighters with weight. Martinez meanwhile is fighting a larger MW after fighting the largest MW in history.

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                    • Jloro
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Do we need to go through this again? Obviously we do, Ward himself said Martinez is a small MW and is too small to fight him....Ward said that....HIMSELF.

                      Ward is also the guy that fought the 175 pound champ at 168 while you are on the topic of fighters disadvantaging other fighters with weight. Martinez meanwhile is fighting a larger MW after fighting the largest MW in history.
                      I don't think anyone realizes Sergio isn't a big middleweight lol. And Ward wouldn't move to meet him so that fight wouldn't and shouldn't happen. And nobody can ***** and discredit Martinez for that because Ward didn't move up to fight Dawson and that's a class he used to fight in.

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