Martinez vs Murray?

[-DSG-]

How can guys who are supposedly on Floyd's level (Floyd's ducking Serg!), be allowed to fight guys with no uproar or criticism?
Instead of resorting to scraping the bottom at 60, why won't he pick the top at 54 (The same weight he says he'd fight Floyd at)?
ATLEAST Robert is top 3 or 4 WW, Murray is like 10.. But it flies under the radar, how and why?

and you think any of the 154 pounders will fight sergio?

[BafanaBafana]

Perhaps you shouldn't presume? I didn't mention Boxrec once nor was I referring to Boxrec. I don't use their rankings.

Barker wasn't in the Top 20-30 because no one who fights at that level and struggles at European level is. It's really as simple as that.

It's understanable he's amongst the Top 20 now but at the time he obviously wasn't.

It's not difficult to understand.




I did answer your question.....You bolded my answer.

He beat Ryan Rhodes who was #5 at JMW when he fought him..

No, you didn't answer my question.

Tell me what made Ryan Rhodes a top five JMW.
Who did he fight, what did he prove? Just skimming through his record, it looks horrible.

[-DSG-]

When has Mayweather fought a random WW? s In recent years outside of Marquez he's fought nothing but guys who were ranked at or near the top of the divison.

Murray being at #7 is one of the most undeserving rankings I've ever seen. How he is in the Top 10 is a mystery.

This is a joke of a fight and Mayweather would never have a fight as big as a joke as this is.

"He's allowed atleast one slightly below P4P par fight"

So what was Darren Barker? He wasn't and isn't even a Top 20 level MW let alone P4P.

What was Dzinziruk? Tail end of the Top 10 at Jr MW.

These aren't "P4P Par" fights.

doesnt matter Mayweather is the bigget name in boxing anybody would fight him sergio is not a big name so guys like geale and quillin arent jumping at a martinez fight. Theres only one guy you have a case for sergio not fighting and thats GGG.

[IronDanHamza]

No, you didn't answer my question.

Tell me what made Ryan Rhodes a top five JMW.
Who did he fight, what did he prove? Just skimming through his record, it looks horrible.

He got his title shot by fighting Mandatory after mandatory and eliminators.

He beat the guy who put Macklin, who is apparently a P4P par fighter, flat on his face. As an underdog.

Perhaps you should wathc fights instead of skimming through records and looking at Boxrec rankings.

[IronDanHamza]

doesnt matter Mayweather is the bigget name in boxing anybody would fight him sergio is not a big name so guys like geale and quillin arent jumping at a martinez fight. Theres only one guy you have a case for sergio not fighting and thats GGG.

I didn't say Martinez ducked anyone.

[BafanaBafana]

He got his title shot by fighting Mandatory after mandatory.

He beat the guy who put Macklin, who is apparently a P4P par fighter, flat on his face. As an underdog.

Perhaps you should wathc fights instead of skimming through records and looking at Boxrec rankings.

Unbelievable! LOL, you're a joke! Beating Jamie Moore makes you a top 5 JMW! Who cares about WBC mandatories? Saul Alvarez won his title over Matthew Hatton and Lara is set to fight some unknown bum in yet another mandatory.

Please give me a list of at least 4-5 fights that made this guy a top 5 JMW.

[IronDanHamza]

Unbelievable! LOL, you're a joke! Beating Jamie Moore makes you a top 5 JMW! Who cares about WBC mandatories? Saul Alvarez won his title over Matthew Hatton and Lara is set to fight some unknown bum in yet another mandatory.

Please give me a list of at least 4-5 fights that made this guy a top 5 JMW.

What are you talking about? That's not what I'm saying. I just used that fight as an example.

Rhodes got the ranking by fighting eliminator after eliminator, this isn't an uncommon occurence.

I'm just telling where he was ranked (By The Ring). Bare in mind, at that time te 154 lb division wasn't strong like it is now. It was one of the weaker divisions in the sport.

I don't think even then Rhodes has a Top 5 calibur resume at the weight again I'm just stating where he was ranked.

The fact Rhodes is Canelo's best wins tells you all you need to know about his level of opposition.

[BafanaBafana]

What are you talking about? That's not what I'm saying. I just used that fight as an example.

Rhodes got the ranking by fighting eliminator after eliminator, this isn't an uncommon occurence.

I'm just telling where he was ranked (By The Ring). Bare in mind, at that time te 154 lb division wasn't strong like it is now. It was one of the weaker divisions in the sport.

I don't think even then Rhodes has a Top 5 calibur resume at the weight again I'm just stating where he was ranked.

The fact Rhodes is Canelo's best wins tells you all you need to know about his level of opposition.

It's funny how you tracked back, so now Rhodes wasn't a TOP 5 JMW? You never even mentioned the RING before.

[Light_Speed]

No, he shouldn't. I'm sick of seeing people saying this.

Sturm clearly won the fight.

Yes, Murray did better than everyone expecting but he was very lucky to get a draw.

All media, even British Media, outside of people associated with Hatton Promotions had Sturm winning the fight, because, he did.

Well we're gonna have to agree to disagree, I had Murray winning. I'm not saying he got robbed because it was a close fight. Now if you're saying it wasn't even close then I think you might want to rewatch the fight...

[DoktorSleepless]

IronDanHamza, which seven rounds did Sturm win that were absolutely clearly for him that would be crazy to think otherwise?