Martinez vs Murray?

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How can guys who are supposedly on Floyd's level (Floyd's ducking Serg!), be allowed to fight guys with no uproar or criticism?
Instead of resorting to scraping the bottom at 60, why won't he pick the top at 54 (The same weight he says he'd fight Floyd at)?
ATLEAST Robert is top 3 or 4 WW, Murray is like 10.. But it flies under the radar, how and why?

25-0-1, top 10 MW in the world. He actually got his ranking by fighting legit MW's not 154 pounders like some of the other "top" MW fighters in the world.
Guys like Pirog haven't done anything meaningful in over 2 years besides pull out of fights on a consistent basis and still remain in the top 10 at MW.

Sergio has fought Macklin, Chavez jr, and Barker, all guys that should be ranked in the top 5 of the MW division. It's alright because after this fight Sergio is going to come gunning for Golovkin and then you will see what being elite truly means after he hands him his first loss.

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When has Mayweather fought a random WW? s In recent years outside of Marquez he's fought nothing but guys who were ranked at or near the top of the divison.

Murray being at #7 is one of the most undeserving rankings I've ever seen. How he is in the Top 10 is a mystery.

This is a joke of a fight and Mayweather would never have a fight as big as a joke as this is.

"He's allowed atleast one slightly below P4P par fight"

So what was Darren Barker? He wasn't and isn't even a Top 20 level MW let alone P4P.

What was Dzinziruk? Tail end of the Top 10 at Jr MW.

These aren't "P4P Par" fights.

Barker could run through the Quillin, Sturm, Murray, and Pirog. Boxing is a popularity contest for the most part, Barker is one of the most talented MW's in the world.

[IronDanHamza]

25-0-1, top 10 MW in the world. He actually got his ranking by fighting legit MW's not 154 pounders like some of the other "top" MW fighters in the world.
Guys like Pirog haven't done anything meaningful in over 2 years besides pull out of fights on a consistent basis and still remain in the top 10 at MW.

Sergio has fought Macklin, Chavez jr, and Barker, all guys that should be ranked in the top 5 of the MW division. It's alright because after this fight Sergio is going to come gunning for Golovkin and then you will see what being elite truly means after he hands him his first loss.

On what basis does Darren Barker belong in the Top 5 at MW?

I can agree with Chavez and Macklin.

But I'd love to know how Barker does.

And Murray somehow got his ranking by getting a lucky draw against top MW's. Other than that, he's done nothing in his career.

[DoktorSleepless]

He clearly lost the fight.

When all of the British media have you losing the fight, then he lost the fight.

That's the second time Sturm has been shafted in his country and lost a close decision to Geale too.

I scored it for Sturm, but it was hardly a clear cut win for him. There was a number of rounds that could have got eitherway.

If you say there were 7 rounds for Sturm where not one could have possibly gone to Murray, I call BS.

[IronDanHamza]

Barker could run through the Quillin, Sturm, Murray, and Pirog. Boxing is a popularity contest for the most part, Barker is one of the most talented MW's in the world.

Wow, you'd think if he could run through those he wouldn't struggle at European level, wouldn't you?

You'd think he wouldn't get dropped multiple times at Domestic level.

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He clearly lost the fight.

When all of the British media have you losing the fight, then he lost the fight.

That's the second time Sturm has been shafted in his country and lost a close decision to Geale too.

Wrong, he CLEARLY drew with Sturm.............look it up

[IronDanHamza]

I scored it for Sturm, but it was hardly a clear cut win for him. There was a number of rounds that could have got eitherway.

If you say there were 7 rounds for Sturm where not one could have possibly gone to Murray, I call BS.

He didn't dominate him by any means but he clearly lost the fight.

The "close" rounds he did little of note in.

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Wow, you'd think if he could run through those he wouldn't struggle at European level, wouldn't you?

You'd think he wouldn't get dropped multiple times at Domestic level.

Yet he was undefeated when he faced Martinez and hasn't lost in his return since has he? I find that odd for a garbage fighter who gets dropped and struggles so frequently. Must be why he is ranked 12th in the world, also strange for guy that you claim isn't even a top 20 mw.

[IronDanHamza]

Wrong, he CLEARLY drew with Sturm.............look it up

I'd rather just watch the fight than go off what Boxrec says and take it as gospel.

[IronDanHamza]

Yet he was undefeated when he faced Martinez and hasn't lost in his return since has he? I find that odd for a garbage fighter who gets dropped and struggles so frequently. Must be why he is ranked 12th in the world, also strange for guy that you claim isn't even a top 20 mw.

He was undefeated when he fought Martinez because he'd had almost 100% of his fights at Domestic level. It's not hard to be undefeated at that level.

His only fight above that level was at European level and he struggled badly. In his fight before Martinez.

He hasn't lost since because who has he fought? Kerry Hope and he will keep fighting at that level and looking great. That's amazing!

And he's 12th now. But when he fought Martinez he wasn't in the Top 20 or possibly even 30.

How can a guy who's fought all but 1 of his fights at Domestic level and coming offa lack luster performance at European level be a Top 20 MW? Because he wasn't.

It's hilarious to me that that fight is even being defended.