Vitali's legacy

[daggum]

Not sure we can call Adamek a 'bum', but the likes of Charr and Johnson add nothing to Vitali's CV.

nah he is at heavyweight. we have enough evidence of that now. his only notable win is a close win over arreola and arreola has never beaten a top 10 fighter so how good is that? he has robbery wins over chambers and cunningham and barely squeeked by subpar fighters like 40 year old grant and jason estrada.

vitali's best win is prob sanders, then peter, then......no clue pick a bum

[beez721]

He's not an ATG. His baby bro is. But losing to the 2 best fighters you fought in your prime, ducking Rahman and then retiring for 3 years only to come back and playa 2nd fiddle, doesn't make you an ATG. Sorry.

He's maybe a top 20-25 HW, and it should only be top 15 for ATG in a weight class.

I agree hes not an atg but to say he ducked rahman who was painfully vulnerable to big right hands is a bit laughable. rahman would have been tailor made for vitali

[beez721]

Rahman back then would have been one of Vitali's best wins. How sad is that?

sadly it probably would have been. damn shame he got those injuries during the prime of his career or else he may have been at least up there with his lil bro

[Windmills]

no....his retirement hurt him sadly.

[Weltschmerz]

nah he is at heavyweight. we have enough evidence of that now. his only notable win is a close win over arreola and arreola has never beaten a top 10 fighter so how good is that? he has robbery wins over chambers and cunningham and barely squeeked by subpar fighters like 40 year old grant and jason estrada.

vitali's best win is prob sanders, then peter, then......no clue pick a bum

Adamek a bum? He was regarded as one of the top HWs before Vitali destroyed him. Former two division world champ too.

[LacedUp]

The steroid misunderstanding has been thoroughly explained and clarified already many times in this thread - Vitali was unknowingly administered steroids by a doctor at the time.

At least Vitali isn't some drug-crazed rapist who bites his opponents ear off. Scuffling in the Ukrainian parliament is sort of normal, btw. Vitali is a political freedom fighter in his home country, and he should be applauded for his efforts.

Ali was a traitor who refused to go to war for his own country.

Right, that's what all steroid users say. "oh I didn't know". Regardless, he tested positive. And brawls in the parliament is normal now? haha. Are you telling me that testing positive for steroids and fighting outside of the ring represents the sport well dr. eisenfaust? (Yes I know it's you).

So Vitali is a freedom fighter because he wants democracy, and Ali is a traitor for fighting for equality and human rights? God, you must be the dumbest person alive.

As Jab noted earlier, you must have a good sense of boxing knowledge or a sensible ability to argue. You my friend, have neither.

[LacedUp]

Adamek a bum? He was regarded as one of the top HWs before Vitali destroyed him. Former two division world champ too.

Vitali 245 beat Adamek who in his prime was 175. Woopti doo.

[daggum]

Adamek a bum? He was regarded as one of the top HWs before Vitali destroyed him. Former two division world champ too.

yeah but the division is weak as hell so what do you expect? being regarded as a top heavyweight doesn't take much. wasn't haye as well even though he beat shot barret, shot ruiz, and a close win over valuev who was schooled by old man holyfield in his previous fight. adamek only had 1 top 10 win and that was arreola. arreola has never beaten a top 10 fighter himself. as you can see you don't have to do much to be regarded as one of the best. also if you saw his fights with estrada and grant you could tell he wasn't very good. rankings don't mean sh-it when no one in a division ever fights each other. they are simply popularity gauges.

[Madjab]

LMAO the fact that Haye is/was regarded as a top 3 HW speaks volumes about the division

[Weltschmerz]

Right, that's what all steroid users say. "oh I didn't know". Regardless, he tested positive. And brawls in the parliament is normal now? haha. Are you telling me that testing positive for steroids and fighting outside of the ring represents the sport well dr. eisenfaust? (Yes I know it's you).

So Vitali is a freedom fighter because he wants democracy, and Ali is a traitor for fighting for equality and human rights? God, you must be the dumbest person alive.

As Jab noted earlier, you must have a good sense of boxing knowledge or a sensible ability to argue. You my friend, have neither.

"Of all of the fighters I have known, I have never known anyone other (than the Klitschko brothers) where their mission seems to be helping less fortunate people"

-Emanuel Steward