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  • beez721
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    #331
    Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
    I believe Vitali was at his prime against Adamek and may still have some thimgs to show before retiring. vitali's legacy relies on his boxing skills and on his charisma. He ( and also his brother btw) gave boxing its true meaning of a " gentlemen's sport" or how we say in french " le noble art" after great fighters such as Tyson unfortunately damaged the image of the sport.
    those injuries really screwed his legacy. he probably would have racked up some good wins in those years he was sidelined. as of now I agree with those criticizing his atg status as potential and what may have been don't cut it. he just doesn't have enough quality wins

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    • Daddy T
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      #332
      by vitali fans logic if wilder continues fighing bums goes 50-0 with 50kos dominating each and every one he will be the greatest of all time. He could even quit against haye due to a pain in his shoulder and lose to wlad via tko and it won't matter as long as he is up on points at the time.

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        #333
        Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
        I believe Vitali was at his prime against Adamek and may still have some thimgs to show before retiring. vitali's legacy relies on his boxing skills and on his charisma. He ( and also his brother btw) gave boxing its true meaning of a " gentlemen's sport" or how we say in french " le noble art" after great fighters such as Tyson unfortunately damaged the image of the sport.
        That was 'prime' Vitali?

        He carried Adamek for way too long, IMO.

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          #334
          Originally posted by beez721
          those injuries really screwed his legacy. he probably would have racked up some good wins in those years he was sidelined. as of now I agree with those criticizing his atg status as potential and what may have been don't cut it. he just doesn't have enough quality wins
          This ^^^^^.

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            #335
            Originally posted by House of Stone
            by vitali fans logic if wilder continues fighing bums goes 50-0 with 50kos dominating each and every one he will be the greatest of all time. He could even quit against haye due to a pain in his shoulder and lose to wlad via tko and it won't matter as long as he is up on points at the time.
            well,,,I really don't fault him for the byrd fight. that could have been a career ender had he continued. a torn rotator cuff is no joke as I can painfully attest to

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              #336
              Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
              I believe Vitali was at his prime against Adamek and may still have some thimgs to show before retiring. vitali's legacy relies on his boxing skills and on his charisma. He ( and also his brother btw) gave boxing its true meaning of a " gentlemen's sport" or how we say in french " le noble art" after great fighters such as Tyson unfortunately damaged the image of the sport.
              Very true.

              Greatness also lies in how you carry yourself and represent the sport.

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #337
                Almost 40 percent of voters believe Vitali Klitschko is an ATG.

                Not bad!

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                • LacedUp
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                  #338
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  Very true.

                  Greatness also lies in how you carry yourself and represent the sport.
                  And what have Vitali done to respresent the sport better than any other fighters?

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                    #339
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    And what have Vitali done to respresent the sport better than any other fighters?
                    Well he's a genuine gentleman. Klistchko is basically a household name in Germany, for instance. So he has drawn many new fans to this sport. That's just one example.

                    As dr. Eisenfausst pointed out, he represents the sport well by his outside ring persona and work - made the sport of boxing look decent from an outside perspective, especially after the nasty Mike Tyson years.

                    Greatness --- how you represent yourself.

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                      #340
                      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                      Well he's a genuine gentleman. Klistchko is basically a household name in Germany, for instance. So he has drawn many new fans to this sport. That's just one example.

                      As dr. Eisenfausst pointed out, he represents the sport well by his outside ring persona and work - made the sport of boxing look decent from an outside perspective, especially after the nasty Mike Tyson years.

                      Greatness --- how you represent yourself.
                      Hmm.. Didn't he test positive for steroid use in the Olympic trials? Wasn't he involved in two or three brawls in the Ukraine government?

                      I'm not sure if that "represents the sport well".

                      And yes, Mike Tyson was maybe controversial, but he brought more casual fans to boxing in his 20 year career than Wlad and Vitali combined could hope to do in a 100 year career.

                      There are many boxers who represent the sport well, as well as Vitali, and better. But you wouldn't call them great.

                      A boxer's greatness is determined by what happens in the ring, not outside of it. Only few, such as Ali, can get their status elevated by out of the ring achievements and with all do respect to the Klitschko's, they couldn't carry Ali's spit bucket in that department.

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