Vitali's legacy

[JAB5239]

Are you a bad reader? I have said on at least 3 occasions, that I do not have a list, but what I said was that I'd rate Vitali above a couple of guys from your old list, which ensures that he, by your defintion, makes the cut.

Now tell us where you rank Vitali. Is he top 50? Or maybe 100?

Don't have a list, scared to make a list, but will criticize someone else's list. You're such a tough guy!

Now what were you saying about Patterson being on my list...troll?

[JAB5239]

Are you a bad reader? I have said on at least 3 occasions, that I do not have a list, but what I said was that I'd rate Vitali above a couple of guys from your old list, which ensures that he, by your defintion, makes the cut.

Now tell us where you rank Vitali. Is he top 50? Or maybe 100?

How exactly would it "ensure" that, coward?

[BattlingNelson]

Don't have a list, scared to make a list, but will criticize someone else's list. You're such a tough guy!

Now what were you saying about Patterson being on my list...troll?

So you are still not man enough to back up the claims in your thread huh? Thought so.




Somebody let me know if he grows some balls. As it is he will continue to be a yellow, gutless, hypocrite cowardly troll.

[Hitman932]

Whilst I don't doubt Bat's knowledge of the game, most Klitschko hardcore fans, like Wienerschnitzel, couldn't even mention 20 heavies from today let alone of all times. I have absolutely no respect for their opinion. This doesn't include Bat though.

No shame in posting any list, heck, I change mine every damn week.

Ohhhh you don't know **** about the history of the HW division. All you did was look up all time rankings on boxrec and then choose the first 20 guys you could find over Vitali.

Ranking Sam Langford, over the Klitschkos as a HW is about the most blatant admission of hatred and bias I have ever seen on this forum.

[Boxing Goat]

First off, post your own damn list and put yourself out there. I have played around with Wlad's ranking a lot, but the top 15 is a hard one to crack. And he may have a lot of defenses. So what? You have to look at who he's defended against, and what they did. Half his resume is taken up by the Pianetas of today. Hardly impressive. Add to that his lack of overall excitement, big fights and especially overcoming odds - something he lacks entirely. His 4 biggest wins all came via boring decision. Hardly the stuff of legend.

And lol at your dig at Walcott. I'm sure you haven't ever seen him fight,

Wlad is fighting the best in the division in his era that is in line for his straps.
That's all he can do. And he's doing it lopsidedly.

Furthermore, Walcott was a decent fighter but how can he be tied with a guy he got destroyed by twice?

How can he be ranked above Vitali with a 2-5 title fight record?

Just because you know who he is because he fought some great fighters in that era doesn't automatically mean he's great too let alone be ranked amongst Vitali and Wladimir, much less Marciano.

[LacedUp]

Ohhhh you don't know **** about the history of the HW division. All you did was look up all time rankings on boxrec and then choose the first 20 guys you could find over Vitali.

Ranking Sam Langford, over the Klitschkos as a HW is about the most blatant admission of hatred and bias I have ever seen on this forum.

Post your own list or GTFO troll.

Sam Langford fought the best, and in my opinion, you don't need to have a belt to prove that. Admittedly, his accomplishments at lower weight classes may have ranked him higher.

[LacedUp]

Wlad is fighting the best in the division in his era that is in line for his straps.
That's all he can do. And he's doing it lopsidedly.

Furthermore, Walcott was a decent fighter but how can he be tied with a guy he got destroyed by twice?

How can he be ranked above Vitali with a 2-5 title fight record?

Just because you know who he is because he fought some great fighters in that era doesn't automatically mean he's great too let alone be ranked amongst Vitali and Wladimir, much less Marciano.

This is about Vitali, not Wlad.

Walcott was past his prime when he fought Marciano, and if you knew anything, you'd know that he was not destroyed by Marciano the first time they met, in fact, Marciano had to come back from behind 12-0 I believe, to sensationally KO Walcott with one of the best punches boxing has ever seen.

With regards to his ranking, it's simple, he has 2 wins that are better than anything Vitali or Wlad have on their resumes: Ezzard Charles. He also lost a disputed decision to Joe louis where he floored him.

[Boxing Goat]

And you have the nerve to go out on a LOL against me.

First off, Sanders whole career was a mess, he'd already been KOd and was visibly shocked after he beat Wlad. He then came in totally out of shape vs Vitali and still managed to rock him before the stoppage.

Vitali fought a LHW for a version of the title, and quit on his stool with a couple of rounds to go. He then fought the most overrated fat bum, with ZERO good wins on his resume in Sam peter, and who was DEFINITELY NOT the #2 heavyweight. He had struggled with a fat midget middleweight and was just dropped 3 times by McCline. WOW what a fighter!

Vitali has beaten the fighters from the second tier all of his career. His best win is sadly Sanders. Don't try to elevate his wins.

And finally. Williams a "hot commodity"? You just lost whatever little credibility you had left.

WHERE'S YOUR LIST!?

Oh now I get it, you didn't follow boxing during those years.

Let me fill you in.

1) Sanders was the man to beat because he beat Wladimir. (seing as how that's how Vitali won the lineal title you dunce)
2) Williams, who I'm sure you see as a joke now that you have recently come to the sport was fresh off of a KO of Mike Tyson, making him a very, very attractive fight at the time.
3) Peter was ranked #2 behind Wladimir in 2008. Don't take my word for it,
just look at the rankings.

As I said before, It's pointless trying to convince you of anything I'm saying and it's a waste of my time.

This ends this line of convo between you and me. It's like talking to a wall anways, plus this is like a 6th month old thread.

[LacedUp]

Oh now I get it, you didn't follow boxing during those years.

Let me fill you in.

1) Sanders was the man to beat because he beat Wladimir. (seing as how that's how Vitali won the lineal title you dunce)
2) Williams, who I'm sure you see as a joke now that you have recently come to the sport was fresh off of a KO of Mike Tyson, making him a very, very attractive fight at the time.
3) Peter was ranked #2 behind Wladimir in 2008. Don't take my word for it,
just look at the rankings.

As I said before, It's pointless trying to convince you of anything I'm saying and it's a waste of my time.

This ends this line of convo between you and me. It's like talking to a wall anways, plus this is like a 6th month old thread.

Beating an old Mike Tyson didn't do shit. Vitali didn't even want to fight Williams, he just wanted Tyson.

HOT commodity I must say.

[Daddy T]

Woohoo another thread where 3 guys and a few alts try to convince the world that vitali would have, could have, might have...