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Does Floyd Mayweather Jr have a top 5 resume (of the last 25 years)

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  • #31
    Because of the infrequency of his fights last last few years no, his resume is impressive until he hits 140. He has some good names dotted around 147-154 but they are fewer and far between.

    Marquez, Cotto, Hatton and maybe Oscar stand out but outside of that his resume at 147 and 154 are lacking in comparison to who he could have on there eg. Williams, Margarito, Pacquiao etc. and almost everyone would jump at the chance of facing Floyd outside of Manny and Floyd who blah blah blah could never reach and agreement.

    It's up there but probably around top 20 in the last 25 years, it's not to say he isn't one of if not the best fighter to fight in the last 25 but his resume isn't close to the best.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
      Even if you give Oscar the Trinidad win and one of the Mosley fights, you could say many felt he didn't beat Whitaker, and many felt he didn't beat Quartey, or Sturm either.

      So as it stands....Oscar has wins over Molina, Ruelas, Genaro, Leija, Chavez, Gonzalez, Whitaker, Quartey, Carr, Gatti, Vargas and Sturm......

      I'll take wins over Genaro, Manfredy, Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto over that.

      Oscar lost most of his big fights, and even if you give him a win or two of those big fights losses, you could take away possibly as many as 3 other wins on his resume.
      Don't forget Mayorga who was the WBC champion at 154 when DLH knocked him out coming off a loss to Hopkins and a 2 year lay off. Also Rivera>Manfredy. Also Castillejo, Gonzalez, Camacho, and if you are going to mention Manfredy, you should put Kamou in there for DLH.

      With that resume, De La Hoya edges a lot of guys including Mayweather.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
        And the same could be said with Mayweather with his first fight with Castillo. He lost to Sturm but beat Whitaker and Quartey.

        You're forgetting Gonzalez, Mayorga(I know), Campas, Molina, Castillejo, Camacho, oh yea...like Gatti before Floyd..Hernandez.

        @ Manfredy....when was he a champion? Exactly!! Didn't Judah come off a loss?!?! You know how you Floyd boys LOVE to criticize Pac for that.


        Most of his big fights? You people sure love to talk out of your asses don't you?
        I mentioned Gonzalez and Molina......

        Campas and Comacho were not good wins......none of those guys were in the Top 10 when Oscar beat them.

        Manfredy had just beaten Gatti and was the #2 ranked fighter at 130 at the time, that was a good win at the time.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 03-01-2013, 12:59 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
          Because of the infrequency of his fights last last few years no, his resume is impressive until he hits 140. He has some good names dotted around 147-154 but they are fewer and far between.

          Marquez, Cotto, Hatton and maybe Oscar stand out but outside of that his resume at 147 and 154 are lacking in comparison to who he could have on there eg. Williams, Margarito, Pacquiao etc.

          It's up there but probably around top 20 in the last 25 years, it's not to say he isn't one of if not the best fighter to fight in the last 25 but his resume isn't close to the best.
          He fought Mosley when he was the WW lineal/WBA champion and top 3 WW. Ortiz was a top 3 WW and WBC champion. These are the high standards people talk about.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
            I mentioned Gonzalez and Molina......

            Campas and Comacho were not good wins......none of those guys were in the Top 10 when Oscar beat them.

            Manfredy had just beaten Gatti and was the #2 ranked fighter at 130 at the time, that was a good win at the time.
            Castillejo koed Sturm, who beat DLH clear. Camacho is 3 times the fighter that Ortiz is, and probably less of a clown also.

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            • #36
              Wins that are not mentioned at all for Floyd, or labeled as bad wins, if another fighter has that same fighter on his resume, that fighter is mentioned as a good win. This is why it's easy to win arguments about Floyd's resume, people hold him to unreasonably high standards basically admitting "He's the man" in a very long post. In short they could just say that "Floyd is the man", and we Floyd fans would get it. No need to sugar coat it.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                I mentioned Gonzalez and Molina......

                Campas, Castillejo, and Comacho were not good wins......

                Manfredy had just beaten Gatti and was the #2 ranked fighter at 130 at the time, that was a good win at the time.
                Still an ok with with Campas. Nothing too fancy. Camacho was a decent win, not one of his bests though. Castillejo was a good win.


                So what if he beat Gatti. Well if he had to beat Gatti it just tells you much on the division. I don't have to be an Oscar fan to tell you his resume ****s all over Floyd's. I can be an Oscar hater and I'd still see it.

                Beating Manfredy isn't something special on your resume. **** I'd favor one of the cops Roy fought over that dude. Maybe even Paez in Oscar's 12th fight. Nothing to brag about.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by sdcluser View Post
                  how about whitaker?
                  Ya obviously Whitakker.. you are right.. Floyd is not top 5 resume wise (in my opinion) but it's not like he's dozens of place down.
                  Floyd is around 6-10 for me.. so if someone else got him around 5-7.... that's perfectly understandable.

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                  • #39
                    Oscar beating Campas, not in the Top 10 at the time, good win. Oscar beating Camacho, not in the Top 10 and hadn't done anything in awhile, good win. Oscar beats Castillejo, a pretty good fight at the time and Top 10, good win.

                    Floyd beating Mosley, #3 P4P/Top 2 WW/WBA WW champ, he beat an old shot fighter, crappy win. Floyd beating Ortiz or now Guerrero, both Top 2-3 WW, crappy win against crappy fighters. Floyd beating Manfredy/Chavez, both top 5 fighters at the weights fought at, ehhhh not good wins.

                    That's how this conversation is going....

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Skittlez View Post
                      Ya obviously Whitakker.. you are right.. Floyd is not top 5 resume wise (in my opinion) but it's not like he's dozens of place down.
                      Floyd is around 6-10 for me.. so if someone else got him around 5-7.... that's perfectly understandable.
                      If you include any fighters who fought even in their twilight since 1987, then the number goes much higher.

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