Why all the hate for Cotto?

[S. Saddler 1310]

Miguel Cotto

don't worry, bro, we could already tell you love him like a woman loves a man.

[..WaRSpencE..]

fight was much more competitive than a snapshot of Paulie's face suggests. the official judges had it unduly wide for Cotto in the Garden (surprise, surprise), but it was there for either guy to win on any fair scorecard going into the late rounds.

Judges also had Bradley beating Pacquiao..

and that snapshot says alot..and if you rewatch the fight it'll say alot more..it really wasn't that close..Paulie was landing a few jabs here and there and kept moving..Cotto was cracking him with that left hook all night and dropped him early as well..not that close of a match up to be honest..

[S. Saddler 1310]

"Margarito was shot!"

and you think there's no basis for that? decreased punch output, noticeably slower, coming off eye-surgery for grotesquely pummeled orbital bone, etc.

Fact is..for years has anyone hardly brought up the plaster of paris..and the ones who do bring it up seems to mainly be the Margarito supporters/Cotto haters..ooh the irony!

oh my. oh my, my, my. somebody has a very selective eye indeed.

[S. Saddler 1310]

Judges also had Bradley beating Pacquiao..

i must stop you there. my statement was that the official judges had it unduly wide for Cotto and that a fair scorecard would've had that fight up for grabs going into the late rounds.

and that snapshot says alot..

it doesn't tell the story of the fight at all, sorry.

and if you rewatch the fight it'll say alot more..it really wasn't that close..Paulie was landing a few jabs here and there and kept moving..Cotto was cracking him with that left hook all night and dropped him early as well..not that close of a match up to be honest..

again, a very warped perception of things. Cotto won, but not a close fight? i think it's you who should rewatch. "a few jabs here and there"...

[DondiNeverLeft]

Hate = Envy + Admiration.

[Rome-By-Ko]

the only thing that makes the trout fight a big fight...is the fact that miguel cotto was in it... that in itself makes it a big fight... so if trout was a big fight then cotto has had many big fights and won most of them.

hatton and mayweather were both lineal champs...

cotto could have unified against clottey but the IBF forced clottey to relinquish his title.



just giving my fair assessment



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I can respect your assessment,but tbh honest it's not that fair..At Jr WW there were plenty of Champions for Cotto to unify with,at WW as well..Forget about JMW in which he has not even fought a top contender(until Trout)..

Cotto Clottey was a big fight,the same as Cotto Trout..These were both top contenders..Not like Foreman Mayorga Jennings..Those three fights were not big,Maybe the Foreman one because it was in Yankee Stadium(I was there shout out)..But as far as how the fight was being viewed by boxing fans,Cotto Clottey and Cotto Trout were big fights...

You have to understand,there are good fights,big fights,and events(Events being PPV of course)..

[..WaRSpencE..]

i must stop you there. my statement was that the official judges had it unduly wide for Cotto and that a fair scorecard would've had that fight up for grabs going into the late rounds.



it doesn't tell the story of the fight at all, sorry.



again, a very warped perception of things. Cotto won, but not a close fight? i think it's you who should rewatch. "a few jabs here and there"...

Your breakdowns sucks..lol

Who is this guy? Fantastics little brother?..


I'm sorry you're right it was a 115-113 type fight..ohh and Paulie also wobbled Cotto in the mid to late rounds..how could I forget?..lmao!

[jab2theballs]

He carries himself like a gentleman...

He does not. He acts like child when he loses and lacks heart when things don't go his way in fights.

[Rome-By-Ko]

again your playing the name game... "the Tzsyu win kills anything" ...that just sounds ignorant... look at the records of the fighters they faced... looked at how many former champs they beat at 140... you didnt anything remotely intruiging to say so "Tzsyu kills all" is what you come up with... lame


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All I care about is where the fighters were ranked when Hatton and Cotto fought them..It's what tells the full story..

Fact is Cotto never beat a top 5 opponent at 140lbs..This is a fact bro..At 140lb Hatton has the better resume,and it's not close..

[S. Saddler 1310]

Your breakdowns sucks..lol

i didn't provide a breakdown, i said the official cards were unduly wide.

if you want to go breakdown for breakdown, though, we can do that. but you'd better come with detail, because your first attempt at a breakdown -- 'paulie landed some jabs and ran while Cotto cracked him all night' -- was woefully inadequate.

Trella was the guy with a realistic card (115-112, 7-5 for Cotto + a KD). 115-113 (6-5-1 + a KD) would also have been acceptable.

I'm sorry you're right it was a 115-113 type fight..

many seasoned observers thought so.

ohh and Paulie also wobbled Cotto in the mid to late rounds..how could I forget?..lmao!

that short right hand was beautifully timed indeed.


i wasn't expecting open-mindedness and reason in debate from a partisan Cotto fan, but you sure surprised me with your ability to step away from your predisposed feelings and analyze impartially. bravo.