How does Floyd not get credit for beating a guy 3 years ago

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  • Cleto_Reyes
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    #111
    canelo should get credit when he dominates floyd...

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    • IMDAZED
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      #112
      Because it's Floyd Mayweather, that's why. Pacquiao outweighed Marquez by more and still got KTFO. Mayweather barely lost a second - so what does that tell you? And he did it coming off a two year layoff.

      At this point his haters are grasping at straws. The more they criticize what he does, the more they are actually elevate him. If the standard by which he is measured is used on others (ie. Pacquiao) then Floyd is by far the greatest fighter of this era.

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      • TintaBoricua
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        #113
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Because it's Floyd Mayweather, that's why. Pacquiao outweighed Marquez by more and still got KTFO. Mayweather barely lost a second - so what does that tell you? And he did it coming off a two year layoff.

        At this point his haters are grasping at straws. The more they criticize what he does, the more they are actually elevate him. If the standard by which he is measured is used on others (ie. Pacquiao) then Floyd is by far the greatest fighter of this era.
        Daaaaaaayum! The truth.

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        • Elotero
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          #114
          Originally posted by V.WEBB
          Love how the fact that Floyd was off for nearly two years gets ignored alot when looking back at this fight.
          I dont really point to it because its not like he was forced to take time off from being damaged like Margarito or Hatton.

          For all I know that vacation suited him well. Maybe better than if he has just stayed active for the sake of being active.

          Its a weight disparity thing. Mayweather was never in any real danger. He fought @ 154 before. He took punches from DLH @ 154. JMM didnt have the firepower to make Mayweather respect him and it showed. It was a great fight to come back from vacation from because there wasn't actually a threat of losing.

          And to the folks who say JMM called out Floyd.. Lots of folks call out Floyd. Every top tier athlete in boxing in and around WW calls out Floyd. That is the biggest paycheck you can get. FLoyd could have taken the challenge of any of the guys calling him out. He took JMMs call because it was the safest/smartest move. Was in no way the most dangerous or ballsy move. And look at hindsight, on paper Mayweather can say he beat the man who beat the man. Very smart, but lets not get carried away from the facts.

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          • UTEP
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            #115
            Floyd does not get any credit whatsoever because he came in 2 pounds heavy.

            that fight is just as significant as Broner's win over Escobedo, it don't mean shyt because they cheated the scales.

            bottom line is you have to make weight to get credit for a victory.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #116
              Originally posted by Elotero
              I dont really point to it because its not like he was forced to take time off from being damaged like Margarito or Hatton.

              For all I know that vacation suited him well. Maybe better than if he has just stayed active for the sake of being active.

              Its a weight disparity thing. Mayweather was never in any real danger. He fought @ 154 before. He took punches from DLH @ 154. JMM didnt have the firepower to make Mayweather respect him and it showed. It was a great fight to come back from vacation from because there wasn't actually a threat of losing.

              And to the folks who say JMM called out Floyd.. Lots of folks call out Floyd. Every top tier athlete in boxing in and around WW calls out Floyd. That is the biggest paycheck you can get. FLoyd could have taken the challenge of any of the guys calling him out. He took JMMs call because it was the safest/smartest move. Was in no way the most dangerous or ballsy move. And look at hindsight, on paper Mayweather can say he beat the man who beat the man. Very smart, but lets not get carried away from the facts.

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              It was a message to anyone who felt he and manny were equal because of JMM's performance relative to Manny but yeah we can agree it wasn't a dangerous fight.

              That said, Manny/JMM 3 and 4 were designed as cash grabs for Manny prior to a floyd fight.

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              • -PBP-
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                #117
                LOL...After reading these comments, now I HOPE Floyd fights the "new improved Super Duper Marquez 2.0" and schools him again so people can finally STFU.

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                • Allucard
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                  His haters have all kinds of excuses now. The number one excuse is that Marquez is now on PEDs and that is why he was able to KO Pacquiao. The excuse that Mayweather came in over weight now doesn't hold much water because Pacquiao came in even heavier than Mayweather did. The fact of the matter is that Mayweather's style will always give Marquez problems just like Marquez's style has always given Manny problems.

                  I only wish Floyd would have been able to get in the ring with Manny and take the glory for himself. But because of egos, greed, and politics this fight wasn't able to get made.
                  Winner post. balanced and sort of like a good assessment of the situation.

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                  • waxfondler
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    LOL...After reading these comments, now I HOPE Floyd fights the "new improved Super Duper Marquez 2.0" and schools him again so people can finally STFU.
                    stylistically, it would still play out the same... but the biggest factor is motivation. jmm had an axe to grind against pac.... when he fought floyd, it was a payday.

                    floyd is the superior boxer. period.... but i have no doubt jmm would be better equipped to take some rounds from floyd. but yeah... styles make fights. floyd by CLOSE decision.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by waxfondler
                      stylistically, it would still play out the same... but the biggest factor is motivation. jmm had an axe to grind against pac.... when he fought floyd, it was a payday.

                      floyd is the superior boxer. period.... but i have no doubt jmm would be better equipped to take some rounds from floyd. but yeah... styles make fights. floyd by CLOSE decision.
                      excellent post. When JMM took the 600k you knew it wasn't about winning for him.

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