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  • LAPete
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    #261
    After Manny's last few fights he shouldn't be so quick to make a dumb statement like he did. Floyd isn't afraid of anyone and he is well aware that he would light the Pac Man up and then eat his lunch. He's avoiding nobody - he's doing exactly what he always does - Being Floyd. Pac Man better be ready if this fight ever goes down.

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    • rasdun
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      #262
      Originally posted by PBP
      I'll be the first to admit Floyd has created a lot of barriers that have prevented this fight from taking place.

      But how soon we forget that it was Arum who danced around the May 5th date because:

      Pacquiao's cut wouldn't be healed in time

      He was seeking money from investors from Singapore

      He wanted to build a temporary stadium on the Las Vegas strip that wouldn't be completed by May 5th.


      Floyd deserves his share of the blame but Arum is equally responsible. I believe Pac is the only one that cares if this fight happens or not but unfortunately he has the least amount of power out of all the parties involved.
      believe me, I havent forgot about that at all- and blame arum just as much as floyd, if not more. My problem is that Arum is the promoter and should only care about revenue. whereas floyd should care about his fans and legacy, but doesnt seem to

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      • rasdun
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        #263
        Originally posted by WESS
        There won't be and hasn't been because boxing is a business and busniess is busniess and not always fair.

        However like I have said, Bob will make sure all parties are happy just as soon as he exhausts all his other options first. He's been making fights for decades, he knows what he's doing.

        In the meantime he will feed simpletons the logic that Floyd is scared (hyping Manny) while milking Manny vs his guys and in the end, will cash out and make the fight that nobody will want to see but will pay for it anyway. Bob will win as people WILL pay no matter what year it is.

        At the end of the day, Bob has always had an agenda and when he is ready, Floyd will be on it. Just wait for Pac's last fight. You will see.
        I agree with alot of this. but I wont pay - and wont pay for floyd or Manny fights until its one that I really want. I wont be forced to shell out my hard earned $ for fights that are second rate

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        • ALG United
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          #264
          Originally posted by WESS
          There won't be and hasn't been because boxing is a business and busniess is busniess and not always fair.

          However like I have said, Bob will make sure all parties are happy just as soon as he exhausts all his other options first. He's been making fights for decades, he knows what he's doing.

          In the meantime he will feed simpletons the logic that Floyd is scared (hyping Manny) while milking Manny vs his guys and in the end, will cash out and make the fight that nobody will want to see but will pay for it anyway. Bob will win as people WILL pay no matter what year it is.

          At the end of the day, Bob has always had an agenda and when he is ready, Floyd will be on it. Just wait for Pac's last fight. You will see.
          How in the hell can you twist something towards Bob Arum when for a fact it was Floyd who did the ****** remarks.. I don't get it at all with you fan boys..

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          • The Tase
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            #265
            so we can add i dont want to fight manny because he's on the decline to the list of rampant excuses floyd has put up:


            Manny Floyd lets fight....
            Floyd- I want manny to take a steroid test never done before in the history of prize fighting even though i dont have a sing shred of evidence against him & i called him overrated, one dimensional, too small, and easy work.


            -I want to go first in the ring & i want my name first in the promo even though i didnt have a belt at the time and pac is 1# p4p

            -I cant fight right now, rogermayweather has court dates.

            -I want 100 million dollars & 100% of the ppv

            -I cant right now i have to go to jail for beating up the mother of my children.

            -self preservation

            i cant wait for the next excuse.

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            • WESS
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              #266
              Originally posted by rasdun
              Obviously boxing is a business - but thats the problem. why should fans care about that. fans shuold demand the best fights and let the promoters and managers take care of the business end. a fight that the public wants should ALWAYS happen - b/c its a business - it will make the most $.
              and, if its a business, then the 1st rule of business is negotiate in good faith. If 1 side turns down a fair offer, it doesnt mean that there can never be another fair offer - thats making it personal - not business
              Well you answered your own question now didn’t you? Bob and Floyd are “personal” and have been for quit sometime now. How easily everyone forgets that Bob would not allow Floyd to fight certain fighters even when he was under the TR banner. Not to mention Floyd felt Bob was cheating him..

              It's not like this is new news here. We all know the bad blood and like you said, it's “personal”. However Pac had his chance to step out from underneath Bob, and well..... he didn't and as history displays, it will cost him because we all know what happened when Hoya, Mayweather and Cotto left Bob.. cha-ching, cha-ching.

              Like I said, once Bob exhausts all his other options and gets what he wants out of everything, he will make the fight and he will make sure Pac is paid but it won’t be fair and it won’t be ANYTHING like it was when a fair, 50-50 offer was presented to pac from the very start when the fight SHOULD have happened. Not a **** canned Clottey fight. Let alone the follow up **** fights of Margarito and Mosley fights.

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              • tredh
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                #267
                Originally posted by ALG United
                How in the hell can you twist something towards Bob Arum when for a fact it was Floyd who did the ****** remarks.. I don't get it at all with you fan boys..
                Bob has said just as much idiotic stuff as PBF.

                Not directed at you.

                Why can't people seem to get it that PBF vs Manny is never going to happen for multiple reasons? The public will never know even 10% of the truth as to why the fight wasn't made!

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                • tredh
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                  #268
                  Originally posted by DTMB
                  so we can add i dont want to fight manny because he's on the decline to the list of rampant excuses floyd has put up:


                  Manny Floyd lets fight....
                  Floyd- I want manny to take a steroid test never done before in the history of prize fighting even though i dont have a sing shred of evidence against him & i called him overrated, one dimensional, too small, and easy work.


                  -I want to go first in the ring & i want my name first in the promo even though i didnt have a belt at the time and pac is 1# p4p

                  -I cant fight right now, rogermayweather has court dates.

                  -I want 100 million dollars & 100% of the ppv

                  -I cant right now i have to go to jail for beating up the mother of my children.

                  -self preservation

                  i cant wait for the next excuse.
                  How are the bolded considered excuses? The underlined was never asked for by PBF as he stated himself. Now who you choose to believe about that 100Mil request is something totally different.

                  Tyson asked Holyfield to take steriod tests and I believe Suaerland Promotions has their fighters and opponents taking steriod tests for a few years now.
                  Last edited by tredh; 11-01-2012, 02:27 PM.

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                  • ALG United
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    Bob has said just as much idiotic stuff as PBF.

                    Not directed at you.

                    Why can't people seem to get it that PBF vs Manny is never going to happen for multiple reasons? The public will never know even 10% of the truth as to why the fight wasn't made!
                    Yes i know, i don't like Bob Arum also, but we are talking about what FLOYD did just said more recently... i am not outright judging but he do seemed like afraid to fight with Manny with his recent ****** remarks...

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                    • Bullrider
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by DTMB
                      so we can add i dont want to fight manny because he's on the decline to the list of rampant excuses floyd has put up:


                      Manny Floyd lets fight....
                      Floyd- I want manny to take a steroid test never done before in the history of prize fighting even though i dont have a sing shred of evidence against him & i called him overrated, one dimensional, too small, and easy work.


                      -I want to go first in the ring & i want my name first in the promo even though i didnt have a belt at the time and pac is 1# p4p

                      -I cant fight right now, rogermayweather has court dates.

                      -I want 100 million dollars & 100% of the ppv

                      -I cant right now i have to go to jail for beating up the mother of my children.

                      -self preservation

                      i cant wait for the next excuse.
                      You forgot:
                      Arum has to disappear first.
                      Pac is not allowed to train in his country.
                      OST spies in Pac's training camp.
                      Floyd is not thinking about boxing, have to spend time with family.
                      There are some more...

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