Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: I Believe Mayweather is Avoiding Me

[BoxingGenius27]

Depends on who you talk to. Some people will tell you that Pac's stock dropped because Hoya had to drop to WW. Much like some people feel Ward's stock dropped for beating Dawson at SMW and not LHW. The difference is, Hoya was well past it while Dawson is still game. JMM is still game at WW. However everyone said he was not when Floyd beat him at WW. Yet the Pac fight proved everyone wrong. JMM held his own and some believe he won. Now saying that, i'll tell you Floyd's stock dropped when he beat JMM at WW (not to mention being overweight). That was just a **** fight all around.

As for Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, Hoya, JMM or whoever else you mentioned, it depends on who you talk to. If you're a pactart you will find it in you to say that Floyd should have never been allowed to box because he sucks etc. If you're an actual boxing fan you will look at not WHO the fighters where but WHEN Mayweather and Pac fought them. This who beat who “better” is lame as it is more about who beat who WHEN they were relevant. i,e. Hoya was relevant at JMW and younger, Hatton was undefeated, prime, younger, and had his team backing him.

However he was irrelevant at WW BUT he held a WW title so he was NOT out of his element like non boxing fans claim. He was perfectly game, undefeated and more confident than he ever was. Remember boxing has a lot to do with mental toughness. Also, Mosley was relevant at WW as he was the Champion when Mayweather fought him. Can’t say the same for Pac. Cotto was relevant at both WW and JMW when both guys fought him. Just look at WHEN not who. You will be better off.

I understand the who not when portion of your argument. In fact, if you check my history, I was one of the main advocates of that theory on here.

But no matter how you cut it, this whole thing of "this guy beat that guy means he can beat that guy" is wrong.

I could find a way for Mayweather to beat Tyson if that was the case.

Of course you can't count guys that are over the hill in making your evaluation, but it ultimately comes down to styles no matter how you cut it.

[Evol]

dude follow the timeline from sept of 2011. There was no time arum made excuses or had dates with fighters already. And here we are before another pac fight and arum already with future date and fighter ready. He hasnt gone back on anything but if pac comes out and says 50/50 now than yes that is backtracking cause hes all bravado NOW.

And with Moreno/Mares next weekend im not gonna question floyd cause i dont care. Let him sort out his own life while im gonna enjoy the fights that are on.

That's all I needed to know, Floyd can do no wrong. Lates!!

[Fetta]

everyone know arum dont want the fight. Pac fans admit that - most of them. the thing is Pac wants the fight - but Maywether fans cant admit the fact that Mayweather will do anything also to avoid the fight

i do even though i believe its arum more and was for years but its because arum and floyd hate eachother. When arum passes we will see fight but who knows when that is. I for one will enjoy the fights given to me and hope both pac and floyd retire soon

[Fetta]

That's all I needed to know, Floyd can do no wrong. Lates!!

where did i say that but ok dont try pointing fingers cause i pokedmajor holes in your logic

[ALG United]

Hardly the case. You are just trying to troll... and are now mad that it didn't work.

Don't be so ******.

I never troll boy!! As i've stated, your statement of Floyd only has the power to demand what is fair share when it comes to Manny in terms of purse split is outright ******!!! As i've already said... Purse splits are always directly proportional to the boxers POPULARITY... That's why an Oscar who was already on a decline and who had already numerous losses when he fought Floyd, still got the big Lion's share in their purse split... Gate wise and PPV wise, Floyd and Manny arguably now is way above all the rest... So Manny offering a 55-45 split now in favor of Floyd, like most experts say is already Manny being unfair to himself...

[TensionKiller]

so mayweather makes it perfectly clear that he doesn't want to do business with top rank, arum specifically. ok... pacquiao extends his contract anyway.

So if Pacquiao said Ellerbe is a ****sexual and does not agree with it and will not work with one, would that mean Floyd is ducking still?

Floyd fans are idiots.

[WESS]

I understand the who not when portion of your argument. In fact, if you check my history, I was one of the main advocates of that theory on here.

But no matter how you cut it, this whole thing of "this guy beat that guy means he can beat that guy" is wrong.

I could find a way for Mayweather to beat Tyson if that was the case.

Of course you can't count guys that are over the hill in making your evaluation, but it ultimately comes down to styles no matter how you cut it.

No doubt....

[SpeedKillz]

So if Pacquiao said Ellerbe is a ****sexual and does not agree with it and will not work with one, would that mean Floyd is ducking still?

Floyd fans are idiots.

so you're the president of the floyd fan club then? pleasure to meet your acquaintance...

[-PBP-]

If Manny beats Marquez, and they negotiate for a April/May 2013 date, and Floyd doesn't accept 55-45, and everything has was agreed upon, than Floyd is making a HUGE mistake. The time is now. After Pac-JMM 4, it's now or never. 2013 or bust.

Floyd is making it harder for his fans to defend is actions.

But as far as the 55/45 deal, his point is that Manny pitched out that offer and not Arum. Has Arum come out and said publicly that 55/45 is acceptable? That's what it comes down to. Manny can say whatever he wants. But it doesn't mean anything because it's his boss who has the final say.

[rasdun]

i do even though i believe its arum more and was for years but its because arum and floyd hate eachother. When arum passes we will see fight but who knows when that is. I for one will enjoy the fights given to me and hope both pac and floyd retire soon

Regardless of whether its bc hes scared or hates Arum - ir ur a floyd fan how can that not pis u off, that he would care more about screwing arum than giving his fans a fight they wanna see