Will Rigondeaux fight Agbeko or Darchinyan next?

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  • dan_cov
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    #11
    Originally posted by Rocky Rode
    You do know Rigondeaux turned pro at 29 after an extensive amateur career and Donaire is currently 29...Fighting the better guys.

    Donaire also had an extensive amateur career and he is now with fighting Nishioka but look at his last 3 opponents Mathebula, Vazquez Jr, a 112lb Narvaez, for me they are no better than Maroquinn, Casey, Corboda.

    Its not whose fought who or shouldn't be really. Different goals (Donaire wanted world title, Rigondeaux wanted his 2nd gold medal), its not like Rigondeaux could of turned pro early is it?

    They've both got world titles. Donaire/Nishioka, I'm sure Rigo will fight somebody soon you can all gripe over Have the winners meet.
    Its the biggest & best fight in the division. A grudge match for all the titles, all the stakes. They have the same promoter. Lets see who really is #1

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      #12
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
      It's also true that many people on this forum knock Rigo's amazing amateur career, claiming that the ams are irrelevant. (Pardon me if you're not one of those people.) Too many fans cite whatever they find convenient to suit their argument.
      I've never seen anyone knock Rigondeaux's amateur career. When someone is that dominate in the amateur's it will translate to the pros almost every time. Rigondeaux turned pro very late in his career and had no choice but to get on the fast track. What he's done for a guy with 11 fights is impressive.

      But for a 32 year old with two Olympic gold medals, 2 world cup medals and considered one of the greatest amateur's ever, his resume isn't very good.

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      • Rocky Rode
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        #13
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        Donaire also had an extensive amateur career and he is now with fighting Nishioka but look at his last 3 opponents Mathebula, Vazquez Jr, a 112lb Narvaez, for me they are no better than Maroquinn, Casey, Corboda.

        Its not whose fought who or shouldn't be really. Different goals (Donaire wanted world title, Rigondeaux wanted his 2nd gold medal), its not like Rigondeaux could of turned pro early is it?

        They've both got world titles. Donaire/Nishioka, I'm sure Rigo will fight somebody soon you can all gripe over Have the winners meet.
        Its the biggest & best fight in the division. A grudge match for all the titles, all the stakes. They have the same promoter. Lets see who really is #1
        Donaire wasn't nearly that good of an amateur. When he turned pro he wasn't a finished product like Rigondeaux. He still had a lot to work in. Whereas El Chacal was basically a finished product by the time he turned professional

        And neither guy has done much in their last 3 fights, but Donaire has a better resume by far. There's no denying that.

        I think an Agbeko-Rigondeaux fight is a good fight for El Chacal. It will be his toughest test since Cordoba, IMO. Agbeko is a legit world class fighter. Not sure about the move to 122, though.

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          #14
          i dont know but he should.....

          the problem with rigo fans is that you assume he beats everyone and does'nt need to fight them ..sorry but some actaully want proof he could hang even againsts beaten but still good opponets esp when these guys are beter than anyone he has fought...

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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Rigondeauxs resume is outstanding for a pro with only 11 pro fights & he isn't ducking, dodging anybody and you think hes sweating Santa Cruz? Please the guys not even the best at his respected weight in his own hometown.
            So far you have found something to criticize about Agbeko, Darchinyan, and Santa Cruz. Tell me then, who do YOU think Rigo should fight next instead? To make himself a more attractive opponent for Nonito?

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              #16
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Donaire also had an extensive amateur career and he is now with fighting Nishioka but look at his last 3 opponents Mathebula, Vazquez Jr, a 112lb Narvaez, for me they are no better than Maroquinn, Casey, Corboda.

              Its not whose fought who or shouldn't be really. Different goals (Donaire wanted world title, Rigondeaux wanted his 2nd gold medal), its not like Rigondeaux could of turned pro early is it?

              They've both got world titles. Donaire/Nishioka, I'm sure Rigo will fight somebody soon you can all gripe over Have the winners meet.
              Its the biggest & best fight in the division. A grudge match for all the titles, all the stakes. They have the same promoter. Lets see who really is #1
              all of them guys have been champions or were champions when nonito fought them..2 were actually in the top 10 ..marroquin and casey or even cordoba have not who also coming off a loss at 122 prior to rigo..so dont know how they are just as good

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                #17
                Originally posted by Rocky Rode
                I've never seen anyone knock Rigondeaux's amateur career. When someone is that dominate in the amateur's it will translate to the pros almost every time. Rigondeaux turned pro very late in his career and had no choice but to get on the fast track. What he's done for a guy with 11 fights is impressive.

                But for a 32 year old with two Olympic gold medals, 2 world cup medals and considered one of the greatest amateur's ever, his resume isn't very good.
                People knock Rigo's amateur career all the time, claiming that it's irrelevant to the pros. But your post is confusing. The last sentence of the first paragraph says one thing, then you follow with a contradictory statement.

                Rigondeaux can only fight who they put in front of him. He has no clout yet.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PinoyNation
                  So far you have found something to criticize about Agbeko, Darchinyan, and Santa Cruz. Tell me then, who do YOU think Rigo should fight next instead? To make himself a more attractive opponent for Nonito?


                  I'd be cool with Darchinyan, I'm a Darchinyan fan but I don't see Donaire fans giving him his credit for it. As you're a Donaire fan I was asking you but I'd have no problem with Darchinyan myself.

                  Being totally honest I wouldn't really give him much credit myself for beating Agbeko unless he stopped him. I'd give him big props for Victor Terrazas whose looked sensational as of late.

                  Hes has a world title Donaire wants, hes a draw, it'll be #1 vs #2 (should Donaire get past Nishioka who we probably shouldn't take for granted)
                  I don't see how that wouldn't be attractive to Donaire, he'd shut a lot of critics up and show undoubtably he is the very best super bantam.
                  Its the fight Rigo wants & if Donaire feels he needs to do that bit more then I'm sure he will.

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                  • Rocky Rode
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    People knock Rigo's amateur career all the time, claiming that it's irrelevant to the pros. But your post is confusing. The last sentence of the first paragraph says one thing, then you follow with a contradictory statement.

                    Rigondeaux can only fight who they put in front of him. He has no clout yet.
                    He's being moved fast and has been fighting C-B level fighters for basically his entire pro career. That is impressive. HOWEVER, when you compare it to his peers(Donaire, Nishioka, Mares, etc) or his amatuer career, his (pro)resume sucks.

                    Basically, I'm trying to say, if he would've turned pro earlier in his career his resume would probably be up to par, but he didn't. He should consider beating a couple world class fighters impressively before claiming all the other champions are ducking him. The only world class fighter he's fought was Cordoba, and many people think he lost that fight.

                    Guillermo needs to fight guys like Agbeko and Darchinyan and beat them impressively before he gets a shot at the Donaire-Nishioka winner, IMO.

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                    • dan_cov
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by danceswithfire
                      all of them guys have been champions or were champions when nonito fought them..2 were actually in the top 10 ..marroquin and casey or even cordoba have not who also coming off a loss at 122 prior to rigo..so dont know how they are just as good

                      Do we really care about corrupt organisations having fighters ranked in the top 10? 99% of this board including die-hard fans didn't know who the hell Mathebula was.
                      Narvarez was a world champion but only as high as 115.
                      Vazquez Jr was coming off a savage K.O loss to Arce was he not?

                      I was actually meant to type Ramos if I put Casey and no, not one was coming off a loss Casey included, unlike Vazquez Jr.

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