Will Rigondeaux fight Agbeko or Darchinyan next?

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  • HeroBando
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    #61
    Originally posted by blak81
    I had no problem with Donaire fighting WV2 or Mathebula and now Nishioka. All champs.

    Proven or unproven, he has a title. One of the important titles and its the fight that fans are calling for. He says he fights for the fans so fight Rigondeaux. Surely if he beats Rigondeaux, the victory won't be discredited and he would have earned his 3rd title.

    Donaire disagree's with all of you. He said the only reason he won't fight Rigondeaux is because he is "boring" not because he isn't proven.
    Sounds good. A few guys here will have you believe Donaire's beltholder opponents are no better than Casey, Kennedy and Marroquin.

    I'd like to see that fight, but I'd like Donaire vs Mares/Moreno just as much. I'd prefer to see Rigo with some top contenders before aiming for the elite, the experience will help him and will make him more compelling of an opponent. For example, the guy that fought Cordoba was nowhere near ready for the likes of Donaire, so pro experience helps even an amateur atg like Rigo. His recent activity is good, but the level of comp hasn't been that impressive (no fault of his).

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    • kiaba360
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      #62
      Terrazas should be the first option and the 2nd would be Darchinyan. Agbeko is coming off a loss, so he's 3rd.

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        #63
        Rigo should fight Mares. He will become a star if he wins.

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        • PinoyNation
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          #64
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          ...but I'd like Donaire vs Mares/Moreno just as much.
          That would be hands down the best fight at 122 right now.

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            #65
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            I'd prefer to see Rigo with some top contenders before aiming for the elite, the experience will help him and will make him more compelling of an opponent. For example, the guy that fought Cordoba was nowhere near ready for the likes of Donaire, so pro experience helps even an amateur atg like Rigo. His recent activity is good, but the level of comp hasn't been that impressive (no fault of his).
            I agree with every word. After the Marroquin bout, I can wait a couple of fights for Donaire. Not that I think Rigo performed badly, just that I don't think he's quite ready for Nonito. When Guille gets his ticket, he's gotta make it count.

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            • HeroBando
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              #66
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              I agree with every word. After the Marroquin bout, I can wait a couple of fights for Donaire. Not that I think Rigo performed badly, just that I don't think he's quite ready for Nonito. When Guille gets his ticket, he's gotta make it count.
              Obviously Marroquin left some unanswered questions, but I thought Rigo handled getting shaken up way better than vs Cordoba. He didn't go into a shell, kept being aggressive (for his standards) and dropped the guy hard. So that's progress, now lets see him maintain his gameplan after getting hit by a real contender.

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                #67
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Obviously Marroquin left some unanswered questions, but I thought Rigo handled getting shaken up way better than vs Cordoba. He didn't go into a shell, kept being aggressive (for his standards) and dropped the guy hard. So that's progress, now lets see him maintain his gameplan after getting hit by a real contender.
                I think marroquin have ko power in both hands and he clocked GR a least once (the other time he was off balance) but I saw he the same thing, he didn't back down and put him down really hard in the 12 round, that's improvement, I think the more fights he has the better he will get and he will have a better chance against ND, IMO Donaire is making a mistake by not fighting Rigondeaux now, Gillermo is only two years older than donaire so the age factor will not be much of an issue, but the experience should and will be, lets say Guillermo fights Vic, Agbeko and Terrazas and win, it will be a ton of experience and confidence for GR, as we can see Rigondeaux is not the same fighter that fought Cordova, a lots of ppl think that the fight was close, not me, Rigondeaux dictated the pace, he connected the best punches and got dropped by a jab, he was never hurt and I know he ran for the last 5 rounds he still won going away, but it was his 6 or 7 fight and the first twelve round so he get a pass from me for those 5 rounds, ppl are dismissing marroquin because he loss one fight against a journeyman, anybody can have a bad night and I see Marroquin grabbing a belt in the near future, he is young and have a lots of potential, just look a Salido after his loss vs. Gamboa, Rigondeaux doesn't have any input in who he fights and he needs to do it often no matter who is the opponent, every time he steps in the ring he gains confidence the talent is there.

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                • BennyST
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Rigondeaux's opposition have the highest win-to-loss ratio of any fighter in history, no fighter has fought competition better in so few fights.

                  His last 5 opponents.
                  Corboda 37-2-2
                  Casey 11-0
                  Ramos 20-0
                  Teon Kennedy 17-1-2
                  Marroquinn 22-1

                  Two former world champions. Name me one other fighter to do this? There isn't one so how can you knock his opposition?

                  Lets see who Donaire was fighting in his 6th-11th pro fights...

                  Kaichon Sor Vorapin 4-5-0
                  Mark Sales 7-16-2
                  Jorge Lopez 2-6-1
                  Ricardo Barrera 16-4-1
                  Gilberto Bolanos 21-8-1
                  Paulino Villalobos 25-28-2

                  It stayed like this to until he fought Darchinyan about 8 fights later on in his career.
                  Rigondeauxs resume is outstanding for a pro with only 11 pro fights & he isn't ducking, dodging anybody and you think hes sweating Santa Cruz? Please the guys not even the best at his respected weight in his own hometown.
                  Don't be crazy! That's just untrue. You are completely making that up. For a guy with over three years of pro fighting and over 10 fights, it's ok, but certainly not great. The whole win-loss ratio thing is just completely and utterly pointless today. Just take someone like Salido; guy is a beast and clearly one of the best fighters in the world today and has fought scary competition but has a lot of losses. Compare that to some dude like Rico Ramos who is undefeated but no good yet...Win-loss ratio, especially in boxing today, means less than nothing. Too many padded records.

                  Anyway, as to the other thing. Jeff Fenech in one year less as a pro than Rigondeaux ie less than three years as a pro, though with a few more fights, had become a two time, two division world champion, fought an undefeated former Olympic gold medalist and very highly touted prospect Steve McRory (yes, 147 champ Milton's brother), undefeated top ten Jerome Coffee, HOFer Daniel Zaragoza, undefeated world champion Samart Payakaroon (who himself had just beaten greats Lupe Pintor and Juan Meza), as well as IBF bantamweight world champ Satoshi Shingaki twice. Fenech won a world title in 6 months as a pro!

                  Saengsak Muangsurin in less time than Rigondeaux and the same amount of fights had beaten world champions Miguel Velasquez, Suzuki Ishimatsu, Saoul Mamby and Perico Fernandez x 2 as well as top contenders (which in that day was as good as beating a Chavez Jr like paper champ today) Monroe Brooks and Lyon Fuyurama with a couple of other contenders that weren't top notch guys. He won his world title in only 3 fights.

                  Sahaprom, in less time and a similar amount of fights had beaten champions like Thai legend, world champ Daorung Chuvutana in only his fourth fight after 9 months, and HOF legend Chiquita conqueror Rolando Pascua, as well as Willie Salazar, and bantamweight great Nana Konadu whom he fought after only one year, but lost to from his lack of experience.

                  So, while I get what you're trying to say, it's just not true. He's doing ok though. The way he's going is just how he should be with his long experience in the ams. Fighting decent contenders, a green champion along with an experienced, good interim title holder in Cordoba. He is 30 already though so needs to get moving ASAP.

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                    #69
                    Agbeko did call him out. So if everybody else is "ducking" him then Rigondeaux should just fight the guy who is willing to get in the ring with him.

                    Unless he can get a more high profile opponent of course.

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