Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

[4Corners]

So if ginger beats Cotto, if Cotto beats Trout, he deserves Floyd. But Lara, Trout & the boatloads of good 154lber's & Martinez do not (deserve) Floyd??

If Alvarez beats Cotto, how does he not??? Trout will have lost to Cotto and beat Delvin......Lara will have fought a draw with Molina and beat Williams and Vanes, and Lara would deserve it too. His problem is that Floyd-Lara is never going to happen because Lara will never get a Cotto or Canelo shot, right or wrong.

If Alvarez beats Cotto, that is if Cotto beats Trout, it will be the best win at 154 besides beating Floyd himself.

I said if Sergio can make 154 healthy and if he's a so called "real 154 lb fighter", why not go down and fight there for good???

[Dirk Diggler UK]

i mean why are so negative about floyd all the time??damn chill out at 154 i wouldnt even wanna see it cause Martinez would be drained

Based on what?

[Bushbaby]

You know if the Floyd fan would just admit that they're scared that Floyd would lose the 0 if he faced Martinez, which is why they prefer ginger, then the debates would end.

But other than being scared for Floyd, there is no other realistic reason why ginger should be chosen over Martinez.

[4Corners]

You know if the Floyd fan would just admit that they're scared that Floyd would lose the 0 if he faced Martinez, which is why they prefer ginger, then the debates would end.

But other than being scared for Floyd, there is no other realistic reason why ginger should be chosen over Martinez.

So what's your view on the Ward-Dawson weight???

And if Sergio is a real 154 lb fighter, why doesn't he leave MW and go down to 154 for good???

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You know if the Floyd fan would just admit that they're scared that Floyd would lose the 0 if he faced Martinez, which is why they prefer ginger, then the debates would end.

But other than being scared for Floyd, there is no other realistic reason why ginger should be chosen over Martinez.

Its so funny watching them scramble for excuses and act like they're "concerned" for Sergio's health moving down in weight.

Its pathetic.

[Bushbaby]

If Alvarez beats Cotto, how does he not??? Trout will have lost to Cotto and beat Delvin......Lara will have fought a draw with Molina and beat Williams and Vanes, and Lara would deserve it too. His problem is that Floyd-Lara is never going to happen because Lara will never get a Cotto or Canelo shot, right or wrong.

If Alvarez beats Cotto, that is if Cotto beats Trout, it will be the best win at 154 besides beating Floyd himself.

I said if Sergio can make 154 healthy and if he's a so called "real 154 lb fighter", why not go down and fight there for good???

There is no way that ginger deserves a Floyd fight over Martinez.

[4Corners]

Not concerned for Segio's health, I just doubt that after 4 years of not fighting at that weight class that he can make that weight and retain his abilities. If he moves down there for good and stays at 154, I'll eat my words. I doubt it though.

[IronDanHamza]

If Martinez can make 154 then Mayweather-Martinez should happen next.

I also would like to see Martinez fight Ward also.

I like both fights.

[4Corners]

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There is no way that ginger deserves a Floyd fight over Martinez.

Canelo doesn't deserve it until he beats a Cotto/Trout winner fight, plain and simple. But if he did that, he would. It's the biggest win at 154 aside from Floyd.

If Sergio is a real 154 lb fighter, why hasn't he gone down to 154 in 4 years??? And why doesn't he leave 160 and go down for good???

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So what's your view on the Ward-Dawson weight???

And if Sergio is a real 154 lb fighter, why doesn't he leave MW and go down to 154 for good???

Because he's the middleweight champion. The only reason he'd need to move down to 154 is if a big fight came along. And since Mayweather or Cotto wont fight him, what's the point exactly?