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Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Larry.X. View Post
    Chavez weighs more on fight night then Ward man...
    Are you seriously resorting to the Pacman handbook on that?? Is Chavez a middleweight?? Is Ward a super middleweight?? Give me weight classes & facts bro. Fight night weights mean less than weight classes.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
      Are you seriously resorting to the Pacman handbook on that?? Is Chavez a middleweight?? Is Ward a super middleweight?? Give me weight classes & facts bro. Fight night weights mean less than weight classes.
      ok cool but Ward said he'd fight him at 164...meet right in the middle

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      • #33
        Sergio cant make 154 so stop the bull****. He has been at mw for some time now so let him finish his career at 160 or step up(which im sure he wants no part of).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
          So he should fight Lara or Vanes while Floyd fights ginger?? You'd like that won't ya. The winner of Lara/Vanes fighting 1 of the best fighters in the world & Floyd fights ginger. Shame on you. But Floyd would beat Martinez right??



          Is it a fact Martinez would be drained Larry?? Or is that simply your assumption.

          Lets keep it real. Do you believe that ginger or Martinez is next for Floyd?? If so which 1 would you prefer & why??
          I love how you assume Floyd is automatically fighting Alvarez. When those reports were coming in January that Floyd-Canelo was near signed, you must have been the happiest person ever. You're starting to strike me as one of those posters here who just complains and doesn't like the sport really, no offense.

          If Alvarez beats Cotto, of course Cotto has to beat Trout first which will be no easy task, then he deserves to fight Floyd. We don't know what Floyd is doing next, and neither do you. So that is an "assumption" on your part.

          I'm saying Sergio hasn't been to 154 in 4 years, so you saying he can make that weight is an assumption on your part. What were your views on the Ward-Dawson weight???

          Also, in 2009 when Floyd hadn;t been at 140 in 4 years, do you think he could have went down a weight class and retained his abilities, after not being there in 4 years??? If not, what makes you think Sergio can go down to 154 after 4 years and retain his abilities??? There's no evidence, you're just assuming.
          Last edited by 4Corners; 09-19-2012, 07:46 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
            So he should fight Lara or Vanes while Floyd fights ginger?? You'd like that won't ya. The winner of Lara/Vanes fighting 1 of the best fighters in the world & Floyd fights ginger. Shame on you. But Floyd would beat Martinez right??



            Is it a fact Martinez would be drained Larry?? Or is that simply your assumption.

            Lets keep it real. Do you believe that ginger or Martinez is next for Floyd?? If so which 1 would you prefer & why??
            Canelo is next and should be...unification bout and determines a new lineal champ...then id love to see floyd try to go to 160 for the lineal title there and retire with 5 lineal titles and 10 world titles

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            • #36
              i mean you really think a 37 year old can just drop weight classes and not be affected??i for one do not wanna see him at 154

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                I love how you assume Floyd is automatically fighting Alvarez. When those reports were coming in January that Floyd-Canelo was near signed, you must have been the happiest person ever. You're starting to strike me as one of those posters here who just complains and doesn't like the sport really, no offense.

                If Alvarez beats Cotto, of course Cotto has to beat Trout first which will be no easy task, then he deserves to fight Floyd. We don't know what Floyd is doing next, and neither do you. So that is an "assumption" on your part.

                I'm saying Sergio hasn't been to 154 in 4 years, so you saying he can make that weight is an assumption on your part. What were your views on the Ward-Dawson weight???
                So if ginger beats Cotto, if Cotto beats Trout, he deserves Floyd. But Lara, Trout & the boatloads of good 154lber's & Martinez do not (deserve) Floyd??

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                • #38
                  If Floyd is big enough to go up to 154 and beat the Champion, he is big enough to fight anyone that can make 154, END OF STORY

                  Yes he might be a small chap at 154. Martinez is small for 160, but if you are big enough to go up to 154 more then once, then there should be no reasons to not go again....unless it simply doesnt suit your agenda?

                  Why would anyone NOT want to see Floyd in a genuinely tough fight ? Its the stuff that makes Champions and builds on legacies. Fighting and beating Martinez would make up for him and Manny ducking each other and leave him in a great place legacy wise.

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                  • #39
                    isn't Sergio the middleweight champ? I remember, not long ago, that used to mean something. He shouldn't have to give up concessions to anybody challenging for his title. If it's a matter of Ward then yes, meeting in the middle is fair. But Ward's titles would have to be for grabs.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Larry.X. View Post
                      Canelo is next and should be...unification bout and determines a new lineal champ...then id love to see floyd try to go to 160 for the lineal title there and retire with 5 lineal titles and 10 world titles
                      I know Larry. You'd prefer Floyd fight ginger instead of the #3 fighter in the sport. I know.

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