Originally posted by Cigarillo
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Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostAt least we're in agreement that Floyd has been to a weight and fought 2 champions where he was under sized big time at the weight, and that Sergio has yet to do that and go to 168. Cool.
Floyd fought a past prime DLH at 154. DLH best weights were at 140 and 147, he was never good past 147. And then he fought Cotto at 154, again Cotto fought his entire career at or under 147. Cotto fought a completely destroyed and broken Margarito at 154 (after taking career ending beatings from Mosley and Pacquiao).
And you think Floyd fighting those over the hill fighters at their UNNATURAL weight is the same as Martinez moving to a weight class he has NEVER fought at, and fighting the best super middleweight and top 3 p4p fighter in his prime, Andre Ward?
Get real dude. You often have good posts but right now your Floyd fanboyism. is showing hard.
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Originally posted by Oh you out son View PostOk lets get this straight.
Floyd fought a past prime DLH at 154. DLH best weights were at 140 and 147, he was never good past 147. And then he fought Cotto at 154, again Cotto fought his entire career at or under 147. Cotto fought a completely destroyed and broken Margarito at 154 (after taking career ending beatings from Mosley and Pacquiao).
And you think Floyd fighting those over the hill fighters at their UNNATURAL weight is the same as Martinez moving to a weight class he has NEVER fought at, and fighting the best super middleweight and top 3 p4p fighter in his prime, Andre Ward?
Get real dude. You often have good posts but right now your Floyd fanboyism. is showing hard.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostWe get that Martinez is bigger. But isn't Floyd smaller in all of his fights at 154?? Wasn't he smaller against Oscar, Cotto, wouldn't he be against ginger??
So what's the difference between him being smaller against Oscar, Cotto & maybe ginger as opposed to being smaller against Martinez?? Outside of Martinez being better than all 3??
Martinez is still bigger than those three. My thing is I don't think Martinez will nor should he move down in weight, and if he doesn't, I get the feeling people would expect Floyd to move up to Middleweight.
Why shouldn't he move down in weight? We've all seen the ramifications of weight jumping. Nor should he move up to super middle and fight Ward.
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Martinez has P4P power, Floyd does not. Martinez isn't scared of Ward's size, he's scared of Ward's skill.
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