LOL @ Hopkins: Canelo beats Martinez 'easy'

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    #21
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Canelo doesn't have to hit me, I can tell by looking at the way his opponents react, the guy hits hard as hell. Williams, Pavlik, and Chavez Jr managed to knock down Martinez, I know Canelo can do it too. Canelo can knock Martinez out if he gets careless.

    BTW, I know you noticed it too, Sergio's head movement against Chavez Jr. It was non-existent. This is not the first time he shows his lack of head movement, but that would dangerous against Canelo. You let Canelo tee off on you like that, he's gonna hurt you badly.
    And what do all those fighters have in common that Canelo doesn't? Size advantage. And let's be real, he was only hurt against Chavez, the other two were flash knock downs.

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    • demonlight
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      #22
      ^^^ seriously. The slow-mo of the Williams knockdown reveals it was mostly a slip. Williams barely glanced him. Not saying it wasn't technically a knockdown, just saying Martinez was not hurt at all. The Pavlik was the same; Martinez was already off-balanced due to inherent disadvantages of his style and got grazed with a punch.

      As much as I hate to admit it, Chavez Jr's knockdown hurt Martinez the most. Then again, Chavez Jr had a ******ly large weight advantage (we don't need no god damn scales to tell us this) and Martinez opened himself too much by going for the KO. Slow-mo that and even then you'll find that Chavez did kind of push him down. Again, I'll be fair - Martinez was hurt and would've gone down eventually, push or no push.

      By the same token, and it's odd to admit, I think Chavez Jr has a better resume than Canelo. Canelo tends to be most effective when he's planted, throwing bombs; I think Martinez schools Canelo in similar fashion to Chavez.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #23
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Canelo doesn't have to hit me, I can tell by looking at the way his opponents react, the guy hits hard as hell. Williams, Pavlik, and Chavez Jr managed to knock down Martinez, I know Canelo can do it too. Canelo can knock Martinez out if he gets careless.

        BTW, I know you noticed it too, Sergio's head movement against Chavez Jr. It was non-existent. This is not the first time he shows his lack of head movement, but that would dangerous against Canelo. You let Canelo tee off on you like that, he's gonna hurt you badly.
        Canelo mixes up his attack far too well, so Martinez definitely has to come with it. This will probably be his most dangerous opponent, not an opponent he can't overcome but dangerous nonetheless. Canelo seems to like his chances as he's showed interest in facing him. I guess in this case it's all on GBP and how confident they are in Canelo's chances.

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          #24
          I disagree with my main man!!...I like Sergio BIG over Nelo

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            #25
            Sergio has an easy night with Alvarez.

            He'll KO the smaller man who has never tasted MW power within 4 rounds.

            Canelo is too easy to hit and Sergio has both the speed and power to make it a very short night for the static Ginger.

            Have you seen Canelo's footwork?

            Yeah... me neither.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
              Sergio has an easy night with Alvarez.

              He'll KO the smaller man who has never tasted MW power within 4 rounds.

              Canelo is too easy to hit and Sergio has both the speed and power to make it a very short night for the static Ginger.

              Have you seen Canelo's footwork?

              Yeah... me neither
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              real talk!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                Sergio has an easy night with Alvarez.

                He'll KO the smaller man who has never tasted MW power within 4 rounds.

                Canelo is too easy to hit and Sergio has both the speed and power to make it a very short night for the static Ginger.

                Have you seen Canelo's footwork?

                Yeah... me neither.
                What do you think allows him to land all those combinations so accurately, his footwork obviously, unless you think footwork strictly means movement, footwork is positioning as well, it's the foundation for his offense and at the age of 22 his offense is top notch, Top 5 offensively I would say.

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                • ThePunchingBag
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
                  What do you think allows him to land all those combinations so accurately, his footwork obviously, unless you think footwork strictly means movement, footwork is positioning as well, it's the foundation for his offense and at the age of 22 his offense is top notch, Top 5 offensively I would say.
                  Nope, his explosive handspeed is the reason why he lands.

                  His footwork or lack thereof is the reason why he gets touched up so easily.

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                    #29
                    Are they trying to lure Martinez to be Canelo's opponent in December? Too bad he's injured. They're probably gonna try and do him like Kirkland.
                    "Well at least we tried."

                    Man Canelo is fked once he faces a real JMW that can punch.


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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                      Nope, his explosive handspeed is the reason why he lands.

                      His footwork or lack thereof is the reason why he gets touched up so easily.
                      No, when one lands that accurately and in bunches, a very large portion of it is on positioning. Marquez, Canelo, Leo Santa Cruz for example, I see a distinct difference between those guys and say an Amir Khan or Berto. Canelo is able to shoot off from weird angles and still be poise.

                      His defense falls on his demeanor as a fighter, he stands directly in front of his opponents and counters with combinations, similar to Marquez. Don't see how that has anything to do with his footwork.

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