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Sugar Ray Robinson- Fought too long
Rigondeaux- turned pro too old, doesn't have the marketability to match his talentComment
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Shane stopped Marg in Jan of '09 to become the man at WW. Fights with Berto and Clottey fell through thereafter, and Floyd came back in Sept of '09 to fight Marquez. The Floyd/Mosley fight ended up happening about 1 1/2 years after Shane stopped Marg.You can't knock him for Mosley happening in 2010. He wanted Mosley in 05-06 but Mosley came up with every excuse in the book as to why it couldn't happen. Once Shane actually showed interest in fighting him, after Shae stopped Marg to become the guy at WW, Floyd fought him. That could have happened earlier had Shane wanted it.
I was going to initially argue that Floyd should've fought Shane in '09, but in Floyd's defense, he was coming off a long layoff. (Floyd/Hatton happened in Dec. of '07) So not sure I can knock Floyd for that.
I do believe, however, that you can knock him for facing a lightweight at that time AND coming 2 lbs. over. Should've fought a decent welter.Comment
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He should have fought Shane instead of Marquez, and I did knock Floyd in 09' for fighting Marquez. Although, Floyd should get some credit for shutting Marquez out, given Marquez just arguably beat Pac at the same weight.Shane stopped Marg in Jan of '09 to become the man at WW. Fights with Berto and Clottey fell through thereafter, and Floyd came back in Sept of '09 to fight Marquez. The Floyd/Mosley fight ended up happening about 1 1/2 years after Shane stopped Marg.
I was going to initially argue that Floyd should've fought Shane in '09, but in Floyd's defense, he was coming off a long layoff. (Floyd/Hatton happened in Dec. of '07) So not sure I can knock Floyd for that.
I do believe, however, that you can knock him for facing a lightweight at that time AND coming 2 lbs. over. Should've fought a decent welter.
All I was saying is that if it happened in September 09' or May 10', it was going to be the same result. He wasn't all of a sudden worse in 2010 than in 2009, the only difference was the guy standing in the ring with him in 2010.
It could have happened when Floyd called Shane out in 05-06.Comment
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Wilfredo Benitez!
- Turned Pro at 15years of age
- World Champion at 17 Beating an opponent who had 86 fights and 10 succesful title defenses
- Youngest 3 time World Champion at 22 in 3 Divisions
Tough as nails, concrete nails that is!
And they say Canelo is just a kid! Biach Please!
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Lifestyle derailed his winning ways!Last edited by Basco; 08-19-2012, 01:18 PM.Comment
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The difference, for Shane, between fightng Floyd in Sept '09 and May '10 is 8 and 16 months, respectively. Considering Shane's age, I'd say that it was a factor.He should have fought Shane instead of Marquez, and I did knock Floyd in 09' for fighting Marquez. Although, Floyd should get some credit for shutting Marquez out, given Marquez just arguably beat Pac at the same weight.
All I was saying is that if it happened in September 09' or May 10', it was going to be the same result. He wasn't all of a sudden worse in 2010 than in 2009, the only difference was the guy standing in the ring with him in 2010.
It could have happened when Floyd called Shane out in 05-06.
The infamous tooth excuse by Shane, after Mosley/Vargas II, was when Shane just finished fighting for the 3rd time in 10 months (This was in '06). He had vacations planned, and Larry was asking him about a bout with Floyd only 3 or 4 months later. I don't knock Shane for that. He's never ducked anyone, sans a prime Paul Williams.Comment
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I think it had more to do with Mayweather-Oscar being a real possibility and Shane couldn't say "Oh, well Oscar is getting the first shot against Floyd, not me".The difference, for Shane, between fightng Floyd in Sept '09 and May '10 is 8 and 16 months, respectively. Considering Shane's age, I'd say that it was a factor.
The infamous tooth excuse by Shane, after Mosley/Vargas II, was when Shane just finished fighting for the 3rd time in 10 months (This was in '06). He had vacations planned, and Larry was asking him about a bout with Floyd only 3 or 4 months later. I don't knock Shane for that. He's never ducked anyone, sans a prime Paul Williams.
My thing with the whole 16 month layoff excuse is this......why is a layoff an excuse for Floyd whupping Shane, who was coming off stopping Margarito and was one of the highest ranked fighters at the time, but it's not an excuse everytime Floyd comes off a significant layoff???Comment
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