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  • MJ223
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    #41
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    Though Rigo-Mijares is a crap fight, because Rigo will kill him, it still wouldn't have been the same thing as Donaire-Mijares. Simply because Donaire can pick from everyone at 122 who he can fight, Rigo is scrapping to get someone in the ring with him really. Still a crappy fight for Rigondeaux.

    I'd rather see him fight Shimoda, Ndlovu, Molitor, or the Vazquez/Marquez winner late in the year, if he finished Marroquin early of course.

    Also, haven't talked to you yet, but major props for Donaire fighting Nishioka.


    Wouldn't mind seeing those either...... Personally I would toss Poons name in the mix as well

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    • reyes066
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      #42
      rigondeaux is the best 122 in the world ,nobody defeat him in 122

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        #43
        Originally posted by jsfd26
        Dont forget coming off a long ass lay off. They're just hyping it up so Donaire can get mad props. I still got points on Nishioka tho. Its an ok fight but these people are hyping it too much.



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        Unlike Kennedy and Marroquin, WV is top 10 and a former beltholder. Unlike Ramos, he loves boxing, doesn't hate getting hit, and didn't go life and death in his last fight with a telefutura level prospect. He's also better than all 3 h2h, and will have a much better career.

        I'm not a Canelo fan at all, but if you need help convincing he's better than Freddy Hernandez, I can help along.

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        • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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          #44
          Originally posted by HeroBando
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          Originally Posted by jsfd26

          Dont forget coming off a long ass lay off. They're just hyping it up so Donaire can get mad props. I still got points on Nishioka tho. Its an ok fight but these people are hyping it too much.



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          Unlike Kennedy and Marroquin, WV is top 10 and a former beltholder. Unlike Ramos, he loves boxing, doesn't hate getting hit, and didn't go life and death in his last fight with a telefutura level prospect. He's also better than all 3 h2h, and will have a much better career.

          I'm not a Canelo fan at all, but if you need help convincing he's better than Freddy Hernandez, I can help along.
          Ramos was also a belt holder and top 10. While WV2 was getting KTFO by a very washed up Arce. Come again bro. How is Vazquez is any better than the people I named? And save me the rankings and belt bull****. Im talking about skills here. Im willing to bet you never even seen Marroquin before.



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            #45
            Originally posted by HeroBando
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            Originally Posted by jsfd26

            Dont forget coming off a long ass lay off. They're just hyping it up so Donaire can get mad props. I still got points on Nishioka tho. Its an ok fight but these people are hyping it too much.



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            Unlike Kennedy and Marroquin, WV is top 10 and a former beltholder. Unlike Ramos, he loves boxing, doesn't hate getting hit, and didn't go life and death in his last fight with a telefutura level prospect. He's also better than all 3 h2h, and will have a much better career.

            I'm not a Canelo fan at all, but if you need help convincing he's better than Freddy Hernandez, I can help along.
            And not to mention you're talking pure speculations here "he will have a much better career." If you're getting KOed by Arce I very much doubt you will be having a good career. His career will consist of exclusive cherry picks. Such as an old ass Rafa Marquez.


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              #46
              Originally posted by jsfd26
              And not to mention you're talking pure speculations here "he will have a much better career." If you're getting KOed by Arce I very much doubt you will be having a good career. His career will consist of exclusive cherry picks. Such as an old ass Rafa Marquez.


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              Marquez/Vasquez is a pretty even fight. I definitely wouldn't say that Vasquez is a world-beater, but he's a solid contender who I believe is on the same level skill-wise as Kennedy. The only thing he has over him is power, which is obviously a favorable quality in a fighter. Vasquez is getting the TR treatment, you know how they do their match-making. Beating a fighter the caliber of Marquez makes Donaire's win against him look even better.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Nishioka is ranked #1 by Ring magazine. And it's a well deserved ranking.



                That's fine, you can lay the blame on his promoter for this.

                But the fact remains that Nonito is accomplishing more impressive things in the division and his star is rising. While Rigo seemingly just sits there doing nothing.
                Please answer just this one question: Do you believe Rigondeaux can tell Arum he wants to fight Donaire, Nishioka, or any other top name at 122, and get the fight simply because he asked?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jsfd26
                  Ramos was also a belt holder and top 10. While WV2 was getting KTFO by a very washed up Arce. Come again bro. How is Vazquez is any better than the people I named? And save me the rankings and belt bull****. Im talking about skills here. Im willing to bet you never even seen Marroquin before.



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                  Ramos skipped the contender stage, went straight from underwhelming prospect to champ, while losing every minute of every round to the 0 defense Japanese champ. His effort vs Rigo was pathetic (compare WV vs Donaire), but not unexpected, I've seen him run from fringe Mexicans on Shobox. If you've seen his last bout couple of months ago, it'd be clear why WV > Ramos.

                  I've seen Marroquin more than once, he was considered a good (not blue chip) prospect until losing to Leal, which I've also seen. Arce >>> Leal.

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                  • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                    #49
                    Last I checked Ramos came back and KOed the asian didn't he? You're one of those guys who says Martinez "struggled" vs Macklin and them yet still won via T/KO, arent you? Well I guess neither Marroquin nor WV2 have a very bright future ahead of them then. Only hype behind WV2 is his name. Don't be surprised if he struggles vs a very battle worn Marquez. They're only doing it to get a name on his resume cause they failed previously vs Arce.


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                      #50
                      Originally posted by danceswithfire
                      not really..vasquez jr , poon, or rafa (even at this point is hell of a lot better than all of rigo's past opponets and the ones he's fighting now...im not really that sold on a nonito fight at this point coz nonito gets nothing from it...if he beats riog, peopl will just say he only got 10 fights and he was'nt ready...
                      I can't agree with the bold Rigo is ready right now. There hasn't been a fighter in a long time as seasoned and accomplished as Rigo for only having 10 fights. We both know the pro and am's are 2 different things but Rigo is ready.

                      I'm more of the opinion Arum and Donaire know it and don't want to risk it. We all know once Manny is completely gone Arum's plan is to make Donaire 2nd coming of Manny.

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