Has there been another fighter to blast through so many expectations as Pacquiao?

[turbotime]

Funny that when the fight was first mentioned people were asking for it to be at 144-145lbs and still saying Cotto would destroy Pacquiao.

Sure, but people were still saying Pac would win as well, as evidence by him being favoured in the odds.

[D4thincarnation]

Sasakul was a shocker, but it wasn't on the world stage
most Americans didn't know about that fight
some people picked Cotto and Hatton, but it was mostly nationalistic
and nobody picked Tony

I agree on the lead up to fight, Pacquiao was favourite on those fights.

I'm talking about when the were first mentioned, it wasn't like Pacquiao going to lose, it was don't be silly Pacquiao doesn't stand a chance those fights should never happen. Less so with Hatton, but Cotto and Marg were considered monsters who would annihilate Pacquiao.

Look at the post fights interviews when on the Diaz and Oscars fights, even Arum was saying don't be ******.

That what I mean by saying he surpassed all expectations.

[D4thincarnation]

There are idiots who were saying Haye was going to KO Wlad, but just because some idiots on here say something doesn't make it an upset. Just like you making **** up as always doesn't make it true.

Maybe but just as many if not more were pick Wlad.

Pacquiao was not given a chance against Cotto and Marg when they were first mentioned.

Were not talking some people the overwhelming majority, and a year a two down the line Pacquiao was the one making those fights a mismatch.

We tend to forget what was said at the time and like to re-write history after an event.

[Jack Napier]

I agree on the lead up to fight, Pacquiao was favourite on those fights.

I'm talking about when the were first mentioned, it wasn't like Pacquiao going to lose, it was don't be silly Pacquiao doesn't stand a chance those fights should never happen. Less so with Hatton, but Cotto and Marg were considered monsters who would annihilate Pacquiao.

Look at the post fights interviews when on the Diaz and Oscars fights, even Arum was saying don't be ******.

That what I mean by saying he surpassed all expectations.

Cotto only by PR fans
and nobody said that about Tony
you're tripping out dude, seriously

[DeadLikeMe]

Maybe but just as many if not more were pick Wlad.

Pacquiao was not given a chance against Cotto and Marg when they were first mentioned.

Were not talking some people the overwhelming majority, and a year a two down the line Pacquiao was the one making those fights a mismatch.

We tend to forget what was said at the time and like to re-write history after an event.

Think about what you're saying. The guy was a known commodity before ODLH and a superstar after. How many superstars go into their fights as underdogs?

You're trying to sell that "pac the giant killer" type angle. That entire idea was a marketing tactic for the casuals. Apparently you're one of the people it was aimed at.

Personally, I'm not even sure you watch boxing at all.

[D4thincarnation]

Cotto only by PR fans
and nobody said that about Tony
you're tripping out dude, seriously

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=232501


Pacquiao Decision 3 4.00%
Pacquiao KO 14 18.67%
Cotto Decision 8 10.67%
Cotto KO 43 57.33%
*too close to call

Check the poll results


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...s&pollid=13995

Read those threads, and tell me I'm wrong.

[Jack Napier]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=232501


Pacquiao Decision 3 4.00%
Pacquiao KO 14 18.67%
Cotto Decision 8 10.67%
Cotto KO 43 57.33%
*too close to call

Check the poll results


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...s&pollid=13995

Read those threads, and tell me I'm wrong.

NSB posts are hardly incontrovertible proof of boxing fans' sentiments :laugh:

[D4thincarnation]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=232270

Read this thread as well.

Not only on boxingscene but the same thing on other boxing forum and so called experts calling it that way as well.

[D4thincarnation]

NSB posts are hardly incontrovertible proof of boxing fans' sentiments :laugh:

Are you saying most poster on here don't know ***** about boxing?

But you know as well I know that it wasn't just the casual fans saying this it was the vast majority of boxing fans, writers, experts, boxers saying the same thing.

Seriously I didn't imagine it.

Did everyone just forget?

[D4thincarnation]

Think about what you're saying. The guy was a known commodity before ODLH and a superstar after. How many superstars go into their fights as underdogs?

You're trying to sell that "pac the giant killer" type angle. That entire idea was a marketing tactic for the casuals. Apparently you're one of the people it was aimed at.

Personally, I'm not even sure you watch boxing at all.

I watch more boxing than you.