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  • #61
    Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
    LOL!

    you cant take the opinions of ppl one NSB as the official opinion of the boxing world! most ppl on this site are either mainstream fans or trolls. besides theres always somebody who thinks even the biggest underdog is gonna win, to find a couple of quotes doesnt prove anything, especially if they are coming from here.

    i can find a bunch of quotes saying cotto, ortiz, mosley, marquez etc were gonna knock floyd out, dozens probably. does that mean they were favourites?

    bottom line is pacquiao opened as a betting favourite in all those fights, by the time the fights started he was most likely an even bigger favourite. boxing ppl had pacquiao a big favourite, trainers, bookies, fighters etc. and tbh most ppl even on this site had him as a favourite too. to say the vast majotity didnt give him a chance is complete bull****.

    the vast majority didnt give pacquiao a chance against ricky hatton? really? you really think anyone is gonna buy that?

    better luck next time troll..

    http://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pac...s-never--17573

    He feels Margarito is too big, too strong and has one of the best chins in the sport. He even shared his thoughts with Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach.

    "Freddie knows this. No way Manny’s going to fight him. Margarito takes a hell of a punch," Arum told Filipino outlet Tempo.


    Originally posted by badboypeenoy View Post
    If Mayweather the supposed "best boxer P4P bar-none" who is closer to Margo's weight decided to retire instead of facing Margarito, what more Pacquiao who's a mere blown-up superfeather.
    Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
    Margarito would swallow Pac, Tony is toooo tall and would absorb Pac's punches. The fight at 147 was only for DLH. Pac and Roach even said that after the DLH fight their going back down to 140.

    A Pac vs. Margarito fight would look way to awkward. Plus Margarito has other business avenging his loss to Williams in my opinion.
    Originally posted by S A M U R A I View Post
    Manny wouldn't beat Marg. Freddie and Manny took a one-off chance against De la Hoya. He could easily have gotten his ass kicked. I always thought the fight was a risk, a one-off deal, but one that was worth taking, if only for a good payday and to see how Manny would fare against a naturally bigger, stronger guy. Fortunately, he passed the test with flying colors, but that doesn't mean he'd be quite as competitive with top welterweights. On the other hand, I do feel he could give them a run for their money!

    Manny needs to focus on fights no higher than 140.
    Originally posted by ferocity View Post
    Margarito would **** on Pacquiao. If you don't think so then make the fight ask Chicken Pacquiao to take the fight if you think its going to be competitive. Either Margarito kicks the **** out of him or Pac is competitive and if he's competitive why not take the fight. So stop the bull****, Margarito would hurt Pac badly.

    And when the payday is good Margarito will move up. Just as Pac moved up cause the payday is good. But he did keep moving up from the 106 cause he was out growing his boy body and he was forced to move up, but his fans will say its because he chose too now its because he had to. Remember when people said Pac is a natural featherweight, lol, yeah sure, and for 10 bucks i can buy New York.

    So let all the egos go, and have some humility, Pac would get his ass knocked out against Margarito. IF you think other wise then shut your trap and ask for the fight.
    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
    people,pacman didnt go to 147 to take over the division!he went for that big payday against oscar,everyone including Roach and arum knows he cant beat the real 147 pound champs!Roach himself said they wouldnt feed pacman to a hungry Margarito!pacman abused oscar at 147,now hes going back down to fight at a more reasonable 140 pounds!rememberpacman weighed less 142-3 on the official weigh-in.
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
    Pacquiao is afraid, it's official
    Originally posted by twinchrome44s View Post
    I think Pac may be taking on too big an opponent in Margarito. But not out of fear, after all he's faced the most fierce fighters in the sport, Marquez, Barrera, Morales AND kicked their ass too. He could out work Margarito for 12 as Cotto was on his way to doing before he ran out of gas. Margarito's not good with angles or avoiding many other punches for that matter so the points will add up for Pacquiao.
    Originally posted by Da Hammer View Post
    Very wise decision by Roach and Arum! Margarito would literally murder Pacquiao in the ring. he's way too big and strong for Pac. Margarito would hunt him down all fight with incredible pressure and KO him in 5! So yea im glad this aint never happening!
    Originally posted by aztecadq View Post
    You Pacquiao fans need to shut the fu** up about Margarito. Margarito is lining everyone up for 2009-2010. His FIRST PRIORITY is to make his money now he's at the top. Pacquiao could have fought the likes of Nate Campbell, Ricky Hatton, Paul Malignaggi and others below the welterweight division. But no, he WENT TO MAKE THE MONEY WITH De La Hoya, just like Margarito is doing right now. And to all the Pac fans- Ya know you scared of Marquez, just look at the picture of Pacman after their last fight. He got fu** up. Pacman don't want none of Marquez anymore, he knows he got an early Christmas present with the decision. The Tijuana Tornado would send Pacman back to the amateurs.
    Originally posted by titleholder View Post
    Pacquiao can beat Margarito if roach makes the fight at 135Lbs and allows Margarito to use only one arm; then when Pac wins all the flips will have the right to say that Pac legitimately beat a bigger prime top welter weight fighter.
    Originally posted by bigflip55 View Post
    good call arum, dont get your #1 guy murdered. i just dont think pac could hurt margs, margs chin is made out of kevlar and stainless steel or some s**t, the dude eats ko punches for breakfast and washes them down with patron lol margs is a meast, half man half beast. pac is a great fighter but it would be the cotto fight all over again, pac would win the first 8 rounds then get ktfo around the 10th or 11th round
    Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
    i thought margarito will not fight pacman even if he is challenged because pacman is too small for him. margarito ridiculed oscar for fighting pacquiao who is almost half his size but pac stunned the world by beating delahoya.

    if pac will challenge margarito, margarito will surely decline for two reasons:
    1. pac is too small for him; or
    2. he is afraid pac will send him to retirement.
    Once again, Pacquiao is given little to no chance, once again Pacquiao proves the doubters/experts wrong in a dominating performance.

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    • #62
      All that work your doing is showing nothing but opinions of few posters on a boxing forum.

      Only time i picked against was Cotto, until now with Bradley.

      And it had nothing to do with size. I picked Cotto because he was the better boxer, still is.
      But he didnt try to box he tried Brawling with a brawler.

      Ill give that Pac is a tough little guy who can take a punch, even though he couldnt earlier in his career. Also he is willing to take a beating in which he does every fight

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      • #63
        I dont understand why OP likes to make threads like this.

        Threads where he makes a statement or asks a question as if he intends to participate in a discussion, when really its just a big cluster**** of him trying to justify his personal view or original statement. Like dude sees something and thinks he just figured out the world of boxing and holds on to that one thing till people just stop replying.

        Maybe he just enjoys getting smacked around by other posters..? Repeatedly...

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        • #64
          When did you start watching boxing?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            The thing is with BH though is that he was underdog against smaller fighters when BH was in his prime, so people obviously didnt think much of BH when he was young as well. BH is still underdog cos of his age and he isnt dominating his opponents rather than sneaking the win.

            Pac haters try make out Pac is a bully for fighting Bradley who is coming up in weight. Yet Trinidad was favourite against BH.
            pacquiao is getting heat for making bradley come up when he could easily make 140 himself. but rather than fighting bradley at a weight where they are both comftorable under even circumstances hes making him come up to a weight he only fought at once and never against a top fighter much unlike pacquiao. its not a big deal but its the same ol' ****. pacquiao always looking for an advantage no matter how small, ppl are just tired of it. he really is a bully.

            trinidad was coming up in weight but not to fight hopkins. the MW tournament was designed by DK for the sole purpose of making tito undisputed champion at 160. nobody was expected to have a chance to beat him, joppy, holmes and hopkins were just pawns for king tito to knock over and BHop flipped the script.

            hopkins didnt bring tito up, it was entirely his own choice bcuz he wanted the MW belts, hopkins just took advantage of the situation. im sick of ppl pretending tito came up to challenge hopkins, he came up to unify at MW and eventually fight RJJ. hopkins was just a beltholder nobody thought much of who wrecked his plans and his face. it truly was a huge upset.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Cigarillo View Post
              When did you start watching boxing?
              1984

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              • #67
                Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                pacquiao is getting heat for making bradley come up when he could easily make 140 himself. but rather than fighting bradley at a weight where they are both comftorable under even circumstances hes making him come up to a weight he only fought at once and never against a top fighter much unlike pacquiao. its not a big deal but its the same ol' ****. pacquiao always looking for an advantage no matter how small, ppl are just tired of it. he really is a bully.

                .
                Deluded Pac hating at its finest. So Pac should move down huh?Is that all you can come up with? If that was all i could come up with id stay quiet.

                What makes you say Bradley isnt comfortable at 147 when he himself says he will be stronger.
                Bradley will get respect at 147 so he wouldnt want it any other way. He is fighting the main man so you know Bradley has to step up to Pac. I suppose you expect Pac to take much less than FLoyd when they fight dont you?

                And next your going to be telling me Floyd needs to fight Sergio at Sergio comfortable weight of 160? Get out of here with that.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Kenny MF Powers View Post
                  I dont understand why OP likes to make threads like this.

                  Threads where he makes a statement or asks a question as if he intends to participate in a discussion, when really its just a big cluster**** of him trying to justify his personal view or original statement. Like dude sees something and thinks he just figured out the world of boxing and holds on to that one thing till people just stop replying.

                  Maybe he just enjoys getting smacked around by other posters..? Repeatedly...

                  He's a ****ing moron trying his hardest to force people to like Pacquiao. I don't know why I even bother clicking on **** like this when the ****** presents NSB reader's opinions as fact so as to push his own **** agenda of sucking Manny's ****

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    http://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pac...s-never--17573

                    He feels Margarito is too big, too strong and has one of the best chins in the sport. He even shared his thoughts with Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach.

                    "Freddie knows this. No way Manny’s going to fight him. Margarito takes a hell of a punch," Arum told Filipino outlet Tempo.
                    arum!?

                    you really are ******ed

                    arum is selling the fight! pacquiao was a big favourite so hes trying to convince ppl its a better fight than it really is. its like DLH saying ortiz should be favored against mayweather, or if anyone could beat floyd its marquez.

                    i guess floyd shook up the world huh?

                    you cant take a promoters word seriously ever, especially on an event hes promoting! hes just trying to sell the fight. he says the same thing everytime pacquiao fights, the next guy is always THE guy. after the fight pacquiao is unbeatable, until the next fight is signed. then thats THE guy to beat him.

                    seriously whats wrong with you?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                      arum!?

                      you really are ******ed

                      arum is selling the fight! pacquiao was a big favourite so hes trying to convince ppl its a better fight than it really is. its like DLH saying ortiz should be favored against mayweather, or if anyone could beat floyd its marquez.

                      i guess floyd shook up the world huh?

                      you cant take a promoters word seriously ever, especially on an event hes promoting! hes just trying to sell the fight. he says the same thing everytime pacquiao fights, the next guy is always THE guy. after the fight pacquiao is unbeatable, until the next fight is signed. then thats THE guy to beat him.

                      seriously whats wrong with you?
                      All jokes aside hes a little kid man. Has to be.

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