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  • #41
    Originally posted by Check View Post
    See, that's bull. "Losing all your big fights". How was the first Mosley fight, not big? How was the Judah fight, not big? How about the two fights with Margarito, not big? I get it, you have to be fighting the top two fighters for it to be big in your book. Okay, I'll say it....Cotto isn't as good as Pacquaio or Mayweather but who is....that's why they are the best fighters of the decade. So you penalize Miguel because he isn't greater than the top 2 fighters of his decade. It's a shame Miguel wasn't a bit bigger where he could of ran the middleweight division like the sure fire hall of famer Bernard Hopkins.

    It's absurd that you keep Cotto out of the hall because basically on the merit of him not being as good as Mayweather or Pacquiao.
    who said that cotto has to be better than pacquiao and floyd to get in?

    his best win is a old mosley. after that, how many fighters can you classify that is a hall of famer or even a great to very good figther that cotto beat?

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    • #42
      Not to me, then again my criteria is quite a bit more strict than the actual HoF standards. Would he get in if he retired right now? Yes. Should he as of right now? Not in my opinion, he is on the far end of borderline. Another solid win and two mediocre wins would probably push him just inside my criteria.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by DTMB View Post
        who said that cotto has to be better than pacquiao and floyd to get in?

        his best win is a old mosley. after that, how many fighters can you classify that is a hall of famer or even a great to very good figther that cotto beat?
        Who did Joe Calzaghe beat? Oh yeah, the dude that beat on smaller guys Bernard Hopkins. Who did Bernard Hopkins beat? Who did the Klitschkos beat? How would these guys have done if they had talents like Mayweather or Pacquiao in them?

        Cotto is more deserving than ALL four of those sure fire hall of famers.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by DTMB View Post
          who said that cotto has to be better than pacquiao and floyd to get in?

          his best win is a old mosley. after that, how many fighters can you classify that is a hall of famer or even a great to very good figther that cotto beat?
          Were apollo creed, mr. t and ivan drago hall of famers? rocky beat those guys and he's in the hall.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Check View Post
            Who did Joe Calzaghe beat? Oh yeah, the dude that beat on smaller guys Bernard Hopkins. Who did Bernard Hopkins beat? Who did the Klitschkos beat? How would these guys have done if they had talents like Mayweather or Pacquiao in them?


            Cotto is more deserving than ALL four of those sure fire hall of famers.
            no he's not.

            Originally posted by el malo View Post
            Were apollo creed, mr. t and ivan drago hall of famers? rocky beat those guys and he's in the hall.
            great lets use a fantasy boxing movie as our defense.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Check View Post
              Who did Joe Calzaghe beat? Oh yeah, the dude that beat on smaller guys Bernard Hopkins. Who did Bernard Hopkins beat? Who did the Klitschkos beat? How would these guys have done if they had talents like Mayweather or Pacquiao in them?

              Cotto is more deserving than ALL four of those sure fire hall of famers.
              Yeah, he's really not.

              Perhaps more than Vitali.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Check View Post
                Who did Joe Calzaghe beat? Oh yeah, the dude that beat on smaller guys Bernard Hopkins. Who did Bernard Hopkins beat? Who did the Klitschkos beat? How would these guys have done if they had talents like Mayweather or Pacquiao in them?

                Cotto is more deserving than ALL four of those sure fire hall of famers.
                Dude you're PRboxingCotto level of stupid. Seriously!!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by DTMB View Post
                  no he's not.



                  great lets use a fantasy boxing movie as our defense.
                  Answer the questions then. What have they done that is more impressive and how would they have done if they faced a talent like Manny or Floyd. If Cotto hadn't faced those two guys he would be undefeated with wins over Margarito, Mosley, Judah, Torres, Foreman etc. That's better than anything those four guys have accomplished.

                  Bernard Hopkins middleweight reign. Bernard Hopkins has NEVER beat a fighter with equal talent of his or a guy that he wasn't much larger than. Cotto on the other hand has beat MANY fighters that were bigger than him and took ton of risks.

                  Joe Calzaghe smw reign. Another guy that never took any risks and beat very few, even top 15 fighters in his divisions.

                  The Klitchkos....I don't even need to dive into this. While they fought in one of the worst divisions, Cotto was fighting in arguably the most talented.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                    Dude you're PRboxingCotto level of stupid. Seriously!!
                    Which of those four guys would be able to beat a Manny/Floyd type talent. None of those guys are that gifted. Cotto gets discredited because his divisions were loaded with talent. How many top 25 p4p talent did those four fight? Gimme a fuking break.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Yeah, he's really not.

                      Perhaps more than Vitali.
                      While Wlad was getting knocked around by Corrie Saunders type talent, Cotto was fighting guys ranked in the top 15 p4p. Yeah, Wlads done what exactly in his career? What fighters has Wlad beat that would compare to Cottos top wins?

                      Oh wait, that's right Wlad is fighting fuking cruiserweights. I wonder how Cotto would of done fighting flyweights.

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