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Jones never seemed to want to fight Michalczewski the man at LHW. Michalczewski would have been Jones biggest victory against a then undefeated 2 weight champ who had claim to all of Jones belts.
Michalczewski was WBO LHW champ who made about 23 defences and won and vacated the WBA & IBF belts and beat Rocchigiani who was wrongly stripped of his WBC belt.
Michalczewski was the man at LHW and should have been Ring champ for his victory over Hill, but the Ring just awarded its belt to Jones out of popularity in America, and didnt follow the original line of you have to beat the man to be the man policy. Michalczewski beat the man.
Michalczewski was willing to let Jones have the fight in America.
If Jones had of won it would have been his biggest victory.
Did Jones miss out on a defining fight?Comment
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Thanks for the contributions guys
In determining the answer to my original question, it's important to examine how shot you think Roy Jones is,
How shot do you think Roy Jones is now after recent fights?
In Jones last fight he was stopped in the final round against D Lebedev. On one of the judges cards Jones was ahead and could have been given the benefit of a KD in the last round before the stoppage. In Lebedevs previous fight he fought world champ M Huck to a SD which many felt he won.
Now Lebedev has just fought J Toney and beat him in every single round, and nobody felt Toney was shot before the fight and if they really did, I never heard anyone say Toney was more shot than Jones. I read quite alot of people felt Toney was going to win and Toney was more proven at CW than Jones.
So now how shot do you think Jones was. Jones chin has never been the best as evidenced by how badly shook up he seemed when Lou Del Valle caught him flush and put him down.
If we look at Jones last 2 fights against Lebecev and Hopkins -
Against Lebedev Jones was ahead on one card in the final round and unlucky not to have a KD scored against a CW who had just fought a world champ to a SD and
Against Hopkins, Jones scored a KD that Hopkins made out was behind his head as he wasnt able to continue without some time out and Hopkins is now recognised as the LHW champ. That could have been a KO win for Jones.
How shot do you really think Jones is now?Last edited by SergioMaravilla; 05-09-2012, 04:41 AM.Comment
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Jones started losing after he came down from heavyweight. Guys like Eric Harding(beat Tarver) and Reggie Johnson were top notch light heavies.Comment
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Not really the same when you have not got the chinchecking/team elite gimps helping you is it sergio! boxing from the east side site
http://www.********boxing.com/forum/...d.php?t=385822Last edited by banny; 05-09-2012, 06:49 AM.Comment
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Although DM would've been a nice addition to Jones resume, i wouldn't call a win over him "career defining". DM isn't a first ballot hall of famer, nor is he an all-time great. Hopkins & Toney on the other hand ARE. Jones already has signature wins. He's proven against great fighters. It's DM who's resume is lacking a win over a great fighter or hall of famer.
It was Roy that rightfully WON all of DM's trinkets and were sporting them around his waist. It was DM that refused to to pull out all stops and make the neccessary concessions in order to get them back. The onus should've been on DM moreso than Roy to make that fight happen, seeing as though he had alot more to prove than Roy. And what possibly could've been better for his career than dethroning the recognized p4p #1 fighter in the sport and taking on and defeating a fighter that was seen as nearly unbeatable? For whatever reason, he barely even made a serious attempt. And his legacy suffered because of it. Today, DM relatively unknown and barely remembered in the boxing world outside of Poland & Germany. While Jones is a legend in the sport and largely recognized as a consensus top 25 ATG.
Even DM's countryman Golota is held in higher esteem, despite having an inferior resume & career, unlike DM, he took on just about every great fighter in his division, win lose or draw. And gets a shit ton more of respect and acknowledgement because of this, despite going full
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BTW, the RING weren't awarding titles in the 90's when DM beat Hill. When the RING started awarding titles again in the 2000's, Jones won it by beating the #3 guy the division (Eric Harding) after the #2 (DM) refused to face him. And yes, despite DM being the legitimate lineal champ, Roy had more of case of being ranked #1 in the division because he was beating more highly ranked Light Heavyweights at the time, and owned every single belt in the division outside of the one that DM held hostage in Germany, plus completely obliterated the guy that DM won the lineage from just a little under a year after DM struggled to beat him by a round or 2.
Just because you hold lineage in a division, doesn't automatically mean you're the proven best in said division (See: Zsolt Erdei).Comment
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Outside of his fight with Jones, every single loss that Reggie Johnson had could be considered "dubious". Including his loss against Tarver. Besides his loss to Jones, He was never beaten decisively in his entire career.
The version of Reggie Johnson that Jones toyed with for 12 rounds > Johnson & Tarver without doubt. Hell, there's not that big a gap between Glen Johnson & Clinton Woods, seeing as though Johnson was only able to beat him once in 3 tries.Comment
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It's important to note that Jones said it took some years for his body to adapt back to LHW, and when he did, he looked good beating fighters like Ajamu, Trinidad etc but then came his real test against a true elite fighter in Calzaghe and he wasnt able to compete. Still Jones looked good being the first fighter to stop Lacy and beating Sheika in 5 rounds who recently gave world rated LHW Diaconu a tough fight.
Thanks for your post ArtThouFurious. You make some very good points about Jones being robbed in Korea, and Reid-Ottke fiasco. However, these are isolated incidents, they had nothing to do with Michaelczewski, who was willing to travel to the US to fight Jones. DM was the lineal champion, and had a claim to all of Jones' belts. It would have been huge for his legacy to defeat him, it would have established Jones as the man at LHWComment
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