Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

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  • Poet682006
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    #181
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    Put it like this. Roy wacks all those guys head to head. No one beats a prime RJJ P4P. No one.
    ..... to the other extreme :rolleyes9:

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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #182
      Originally posted by poet682006
      ..... to the other extreme :rolleyes9:
      Fantasy fights are just that; fantasy fights.

      I just don't see anyone beating a prime Roy head to head; with the exception of SRR.

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        #183
        Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
        I just don't see anyone beating a prime Roy head to head
        Like I said: To the other extreme :rolleyes9:

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          #184
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
          Fantasy fights are just that; fantasy fights.

          I just don't see anyone beating a prime Roy head to head; with the exception of SRR.

          I feel that's a bit disrespectful to some great fighters throughout time. For example, I think Marvin Hagler from the Tommy Hearns fight would bring too much pressure (with his granite chin) and stop Roy. Michael Spinks went undefeated during arguably the strongest ever LHW era, I feel Michael Spinks is the greatest LHW of all time and would beat Roy. There are other fighters of course, these are just examples. I don't think Roy has a strong resume personally(for a fighter of his obvious talent), I feel most of his legacy is based on his H2H ability

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            #185
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
            Put it like this. Roy wacks all those guys head to head. No one beats a prime RJJ P4P. No one.
            Hmm, a Roy Jones fan perhaps?

            Roy wasnt some unstoppable force, he has struggled before against guys like Montell Griffin, Tarver and Harding, and those guys dont hold a candle to the likes of Moore, Charles, etc.

            Im not sure how you think Ray Robinson would have a chance against Roy, while meanwhile you dont even consider the likes of Mike Spinks.

            Dont get me wrong, Roy was extremely talented, and you can make a strong argument for him against certain ATGs. But I can also see a few guys being a nightmare for him, ie Mike Spinks.

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              #186
              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              Maybe the near 30lb's between lightheavy & heavy had something to do with his loss to Tarver, maybe??
              in the first fight yes not the 2nd. he had a year to lose the weight and hired mackie shilstone to do it for the 2nd fight. he got caught. no excuses.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Davis40
                in the first fight yes not the 2nd. he had a year to lose the weight and hired mackie shilstone to do it for the 2nd fight. he got caught. no excuses.

                By the time of the Glen Johnson fight he had plenty of time to adjust to making 175. I personally think he didn't train hard enough due to lack of motivation, and I think Glen Johnson fought a great fight that was horrible for Roy, Glen was a champion and he was on a good winning run. 12 months later Roy was still able to push Tarver in the rubber match.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                  Fantasy fights are just that; fantasy fights.

                  I just don't see anyone beating a prime Roy head to head; with the exception of SRR.
                  AT WHAT WEIGHT?

                  175 quite a few can beat ROY Jones Junior

                  at 175

                  quite a few


                  at 168 he is unbeataable

                  by quite a few I mean like 3-4

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                  • SergioMaravilla
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by TheHayeMaker
                    AT WHAT WEIGHT?

                    175 quite a few can beat ROY Jones Junior

                    at 175

                    quite a few


                    at 168 he is unbeataable

                    by quite a few I mean like 3-4

                    How is he unbeatable at 168? his SMW resume (bar Toney) is terrible. Toney was completely drained when they fought, he had to cut 30 pounds in a few weeks to make weight, furthermore Toney wasn't a great SMW.

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                      #190
                      What a ****** thread, Eric Harding beat Tarver before fighting Roy

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