1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate

[The Big Dunn]

and fought margs. I'm surprised that you can't your shi t straight.

who said 75 places? Please quote me on that because I;ve asked you to quote me on other things that you said I said but you seem to ignore those requests.



Those active fighters are quickly becoming something similar to beating Shane after a 16 month layoff at 38 compared to a fresher mosley from 2006.

he had chances to fight both when they were hotter (but manny can erase some of that by spanking bradley)

Shane toothie was hurty.

[Walt Liquor]

He'd have fought him at 140, yeah. Why not?

He fought him in his prime I have no reason to think he would have avoided it were they both at 140 for an extended period like Pacquaio and Mayweather are now and have been.

This is why I have been laughing this whole time.

You genuinely believe, that not only Mayweather beating Hatton at 140 would enhance his legacy more than the win he has now. But, you also think he avoided it Or "didn't seek it out"

hatton was the ring/lineal champ at 140, floyd fought him at 147, baldo was the lineal champ at 147, and floyd wanted that lineal title really badly, so badly, that he managed not to get in the ring with margs. so there is more precedent for what I say that what you are proposing.

so the lineal title meant more at 147 than at 140 now. weird.

floyd signed a contract for a fight at 144 after a 2 year layoff AFTER the hatton fight, but you know he couldn't make 140.

[Bushbaby]

Mayweather was campaigning at 147, a belt holder at 147 and Hatton was absolutely fine with fighting at 147.

I doubt Mayweather would have made 140 in 07 either, IMO.

He wasn't and isn't a big WW but he's not that small of one.

I didn't say a thing about whether Hatton was fine at 147 or not. I said Collazo, the man, the fighter proved he didn't elong there. You made it seem like I didn't credit Collazo, (which I clearly did).

But the minute Floyd didn't make weight for his catchweight showdown with Marquez, I knew he was a full fledged welter & he'd probably been for some time.

[Walt Liquor]

For arguments sake, Margarito, Martinez, Hatton at 140 ( ) and Pacquaio in 09.

Let's pretend Mayweather avoided all those fights (or didn't "seek them out". Still not sure what the implication there is)

That still doesn't take him from the lower tier of ATG's to Top 25.

hell yea it does, are you kidding me?

Lineal 140, 147, and 160 ON TOP of his 130 and 135 careers.

(assuming he wins all of those fights)

[IronDanHamza]

and fought margs. I'm surprised that you can't your shi t straight.

who said 75 places? Please quote me on that because I;ve asked you to quote me on other things that you said I said but you seem to ignore those requests.

You really have no leg to stand on when talking about answering requests. Seriously.

You said he's a "lower tier ATG" I've asked you "what does that mean"

There's 100+ ATG's and since you refused to answer I assume that "lower tier" means near the bottom 100.

So, that's how I got 75 places.

Those active fighters are quickly becoming something similar to beating Shane after a 16 month layoff at 38 compared to a fresher mosley from 2006.

A fight you coincidentally picked Shane to win

So Mayweather avoided Mosley aswell in 06 now?

You don't live in reality. You make **** up that suits your ideology.

You did the same **** with Kosta Tszyu that I de-bunked.

You say Mayweather avoided all these fighters but in actual reality, he didn't.

He didn't duck Hatton at 140 and he didn't duck Shane in 2006.[/QUOTE]

[Gino Ros]

this is absolutely 1000% false.

That is not false,

In fact, I could find the ESPN video where BKenny (?) was challenging Floyd about why he won't face Baldo.

..and then all ChickenFraudCowardDuck's detractors hopped on that bandwagon.

True story.

[-jose-]

Most have been very respectful with no flaming in the build up of the fight..you know before alot of fights you have fan bases going to E-war.i can only imagine what the battleground will be like if floyd and manny finally sign to fight,but Cotto fans are kind of like Cotto,short for words and respectful while the floyd fans have been talking cash money ****,lol

HERES TO A GOOD FIGHT FELLAS

Greatly Appreciate those words...

Team Cotto Ride 2 Die
like I posted before
win or loose
I'll be
TEAM COTTO
May 6...

[Walt Liquor]

Walt, what kills your argument is that Hatton himself acknowledged that his chances were better at 147. Anyone who knows how to analyze fights could very easily see that. He witnessed Gatti's beating live. How Hatton's chances are better against a faster more athletically gifted version of Floyd is insane, especially considering there is no difference between Hatton at 140 to 147.

hatton was the ring/lineal champ at 140, floyd fought him at 147, baldo was the lineal champ at 147, and floyd wanted that lineal title really badly, so badly, that he managed not to get in the ring with margs. so there is more precedent for what I say that what you are proposing.

so the lineal title meant more at 147 than at 140 now. weird.

oh, and the ring title

[IronDanHamza]

hell yea it does, are you kidding me?

Lineal 140, 147, and 160 ON TOP of his 130 and 135 careers.

(assuming he wins all of those fights)

It does it you think he's a Top 50 ATG or around that mark.

If you consider him a lower tier ATG like you said you do then no, it doesn't.

[UrGonnaLooos]

I'm a Cotto fan and also of Mayweather's, but like most real Boxing fans I've been wanting to see this fight for years and glad it's finally happening.

I may be in the minority, but I also think it may be more competitive now than maybe 5-6 yrs ago.

Agreed 100% ^^^^^^^