1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate

[Walt Liquor]

You really have no leg to stand on when talking about answering requests. Seriously.

You said he's a "lower tier ATG" I've asked you "what does that mean"

and I answered around 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

A fight you coincidentally picked Shane to win "

I ate my crow on that pick and I will continue to do so, I never dissed that win for floyd in this thread, or ever, I just said a win in 2006 over shane would have been better, comparing it to a win over pac in '09 vs a pac win in '13.

So Mayweather avoided Mosley aswell in 06 now?:"

again, quote please?

You don't live in reality. You make **** up that suits your ideology.?

yea, because I've changed up my stances without explanation so many times.

You did the same **** with Kosta Tszyu that I de-bunked..?

you didn't debun shi t, I had that conve 20 times before with people. I knew they were on different networks and the timing wasn't right. but floyd was not after a zoo fight, he was after gatti then on to 147

You say Mayweather avoided all these fighters but in actual reality, he didn't..?

in actuality he didn't fight them until he had an advantage, if at all, but other people did. make up whatever excuses you want.

He didn't duck Hatton at 140 and he didn't duck Shane in 2006.

where did I say he did this Dan.

I haven't seen you one time back your words up yet.

[IronDanHamza]

Hatton was better at 140 than 147, Collazo proved that, clear enough??

No, it doesn't

Again, that is saying that the reason Hatton looked bad at 147 is because of the weight.

But, it wasn't. It was because Collazo as too big and too skilled.

Again, not giving him the credit he deserves.

Hatton was the same fighter at 140 as he was at 147. Only difference was he couldn't bully a big skilled WW like Collazo.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Hatton was better at 140 than 147, Collazo proved that, clear enough??

No, Collazo proved Hatton wasn't good enough to decisively beat him, not that he was better at 140.

[Walt Liquor]

Because if Mayweather didn't avoid Hatton at 140 then it would have enhanced his legacy, apparently.

no, beatibng hatton at 140 and winning the title from the best 140lber in boxing would have as opposed to beating a guy who got a gift at 147 for his title.

[Walt Liquor]

Shane toothie was hurty.

dont care, shane fought better fighters in their primes than floyd

[Bushbaby]

Absolutely, especially considering Tszyu at the time was in and out the sport and overrated, though I don't want to go there

But yes, Collazo was the best fighter Hatton fought before facing Floyd.

Yeah, we'll stay away from the bold. Because once we start taking faded fighters, the hypocracy starts pouring out in alarming rates. But otherwise I'll say I get where you're coming from.

[The Big Dunn]

no, beatibng hatton at 140 and winning the title from the best 140lber in boxing would have as opposed to beating a guy who got a gift at 147 for his title.

But it was the best 140lber that moved away from the fight. Thats the problem with your SHane in 06 arguement. The guys you wanted him to fight then felt floyd was high risk little reward. Essentially, you wanted floyd to take what he could get financially to increae his legacy. Shouldn't everyone have to do that?

[The Big Dunn]

dont care, shane fought better fighters in their primes than floyd

But he wasn't man enough to fight floyd when both were prime.

[Bushbaby]

No, it doesn't

Again, that is saying that the reason Hatton looked bad at 147 is because of the weight.

But, it wasn't. It was because Collazo as too big and too skilled.

Again, not giving him the credit he deserves.

Hatton was the same fighter at 140 as he was at 147. Only difference was he couldn't bully a big skilled WW like Collazo.

I agree, because he wasn't a welterweight.................

[Walt Liquor]

No, Collazo proved Hatton wasn't good enough to decisively beat him, not that he was better at 140.

I'm talking to a lot of people here dominicano.

Listen, you're not gonna convince me that Hatton was the same fighter at 147 than he was at 140. He was muscling guys around waaaya more at 140, he's a shorty with alligator arms. he looked small comapred to JLC length wise to me. at 147 he was a littel guy with decent physical strength, and 140 he was much more effective. he faded at both his 147 lb fights too