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  • Osirus022
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    #91
    Originally posted by mistermartin
    U guys say the same things almost every mayweather fight. But I must be watching a diff fighter bc Although floyd throws fewer than 50 punches/rd in most fights. He controls the tempo from the jump. My question to all of u is if floyd is so feather fisted...why is it that opponents don't just stand their ground & go toe 2 toe...how is it he's able to back up guys "bigger, stronger, who hit harder"?? why is nobody walking thru those punches & getting to him like hatton did to Kostya??? I mean it's funny to come on here & read these comments.

    You look at the last fight w/ ortiz (who almost weighed in @ LH) floyd was backing him up w/ straight rights to the head & he did let combinations go. I predicted the fight would end around 9 or 10. But as I watched I was certain ortiz wouldn't make it past 6. I mean..it's just funny to see guys put all this hope in a fighter who has yet to even fight well in the past several yrs. His last good performance was in the mosely fight & even that fight was a gimmie at the end. I had miguel winning but I have friends til this day who give that fight to shane. Cotto made me proud vs Clottey...But he didn't fight particularly well. he was getting touched all nite that night too. & every time he gets into trouble he resorts to fouling....He doesn't clich so he's going to take shots. I see this mayweather fight no diff....don't mean to shatter yalls dreams but floyd is going to give a highlight reel azz whooping to cotto. Dude is just faded. It won't even be close. Floyd is going to end his night.
    id wanna bet u a mil that Cotto doesnt get stopped

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    • mistermartin
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      #92
      Originally posted by Osirus022
      id wanna bet u a mil that Cotto doesnt get stopped
      & I'd wanna bet real money...I don't even get into this virtual bull****. I come here to talk boxng period. You talking money...well let's put up some cash forreal.

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      • KTFO
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        #93
        Originally posted by mistermartin
        *yawn* Do u even hear urself sir. U just said gatti was oversized & miguel is undersized...wow. Miguel may be short but he's 'thick built' ...plus he's a fatboi. Why else would someone the size of mugsy bogues be fighting at 154. Also...b4 I dig into ur super-biased opinion...(can't take u serious w/ him as ur avatar). Second look at the guys ur comparing mayweather to as an argument for cotto overcoming handspeed...this is too easy & too funny. Cotto had no fear of paulie (7 kos career) Also...the shane win was a good one. But shane has no jab & does not use superior handspeed to beat opps. (Shane hasn't looked good against a marked opp since the lower weight classes) third...yuri foreman?? I don't even need to offer up a rebuttle to that one. & let's look at the judah fight...Cotto was getting touched...HARD. He was hurt & had to hit the man w/ low blows to seize control. I don't call that overcoming a fster fighter....He took the starch totally out of judah thru his nuts. And lastly Zab is a notorious frontrunner who's only dominant over a certain level of opponent.

        Here's the rub...try & hope & wish cotto fights well all u want. but it won't happen. Cotto is at 54 bc he doesn't discipliine himself enough to maintain a good weight between fights. Cotto got hit by SLOW AZZ TONY 100 fewer times over 9 rds than in their 1st fight & his face looked like ****. Enough w/ the bs excuses & reaching. Wut that means is he has no clue about getting out of the way of punches. & he's fighting a guy who will have a 50-60% connect % against a guy like that. A fighter who has every advantage physical & mental....I don't know wut ur seeing. ur reaching dogg.
        Can you read bro? I was debunking your bull**** claim that Gatti and Cotto are essentially the same fighter. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know that Gatti was an oversized JR WELTER (140 in case you didn't know) that routinely put on 15+ pounds. He used his size advantage over smaller B level fighters to complement his style, but, when he stepped up to top tier comp he usually got stopped. Cotto is and undersized JR MIDDLE (154) who uses his ability to beat top tier comp. If Gatti came anywhere near Cotto at 140, 147 or 154 he'd get stopped early. So, how can the be the same ****ing fighter?

        Yes, I'm a Cotto fan and I'm glad you took the time to look at pictures cus you obviously don't read too well. I never compared Malinaggi, Judah, Mosley or Foreman to Mayweather. You said Cotto and Gatti were both slow so I made a point of how a SLOW fighter neutralized faster fighters. Again, reeeaaalllll slow for you, my point was Cotto was deceptively fast and he held a hand speed advantage over....ding, Gatti. If you read my post I already stated that the smart money is on a Mayweather Ud and anything else would be betting on the come.

        A guy like Cotto is offensive minded or what people would call someone who's willing to give n take. No, he's not a defensive wizard but how many offensive minded fighters are? It's called risk taking genius. Sergio, Pac, Gamboa, Rios, Marquez....are all willing to give some to take some. Stop with the ridiculous claims of "look how red his face is" or "he got hit with 100 fewer punches and look at his face". It's a COMBAT SPORT for a reason!

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        • el malo
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          #94
          Originally posted by DoomCity202
          Gets the opportunity of a life time....at the wrong time in his career.

          The money is good though....his family will eat good.

          Floyd wont beat him up to the point his kids are crying at least.
          cotto and his family been eating good for years.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #95
            Originally posted by PHAZE
            This fight reminds me to the first Sugar Ray / Duran fight, when Ray was the heavy favorite and Duran Upseted him.
            How? There's no comparison.

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              #96
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              How? There's no comparison.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #97
                Originally posted by Cupocity303
                Which Hip Hop blog did you pick this nonsense up from?

                Why do I keep reading about comparisons between Gatti and Cotto? Do you people watch Boxing?

                Some may have thought of Cotto as no better in 2006, thinking that Malignaggie, Quintana or Judah were gonna box his socks off, and yet his timing and occasional counters were good enough to beat all of them.

                Floyd will probably win, but enough of this Gatti/Cotto comparison nonsense.
                There literally hasn't been a single fight since the Gatti fight where people weren't predicting Floyd would "Gatti" his opponent. They say it about everyone he fights, everyone he might fight, he could fight Sergio Martinez and people would say he'll Gatti Sergio.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Fistic
                  LOL Floyd isn't half the beast Leonard was either.
                  The gap in ability between Leonard and Floyd is much smaller than the one between Duran and Cotto.

                  Originally posted by KTFO
                  If Gatti came anywhere near Cotto at 140, 147 or 154 he'd get stopped early.
                  I don't know about that. Cotto is much more skilled but his chin has always been a problem, he went life and death with Torres and his legs went jelly against Corley. One thing about Gatti, he could get his ears boxed off for most of the fight and come from behind with a huge KO shot out of nowhere. I wouldn't count him out against Cotto prime vs prime @ 140.

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                  • GOD-FR33
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                    #99
                    I disagree.........

                    "but his chin has always been a problem,"

                    No it hasn't always been a problem. What happened in those fights is that Cotto was a young, brave, and confident fighter. On top of that, he was fighting very competitive opponents. Once he grew into himself, his chin has been solid every since. Cotto has improved his defense, balance, and ring IQ in recent years that has helped him in recent fights. He hasn't cut in 4 or 5 fights because he knows he has to defend at this stage. Steward helped him with that. Also, Cheeto had plaster in his gloves and disfigured Cotto's face, and it STILL took 12 rounds to end it. That means his chin is solid. He got cut in the 3rd round against Clottey with no real cut man who coudn't stop the bleeding, and still took hard shots without a problem. Against Manny, he was weight-drained and it STILL took 12 to stop him. He is a hell of a fighter with a lot of heart and will to win. He doesn't just fight for money, he fights for legacy and that is why he will win on May 5th. You heard it here first. No way Mayweather will stop him. May's inactivity and poor work-rate, will be his demise eventually.

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                    • mistermartin
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by KTFO
                      Can you read bro? I was debunking your bull**** claim that Gatti and Cotto are essentially the same fighter. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know that Gatti was an oversized JR WELTER (140 in case you didn't know) that routinely put on 15+ pounds. He used his size advantage over smaller B level fighters to complement his style, but, when he stepped up to top tier comp he usually got stopped. Cotto is and undersized JR MIDDLE (154) who uses his ability to beat top tier comp. If Gatti came anywhere near Cotto at 140, 147 or 154 he'd get stopped early. So, how can the be the same ****ing fighter?

                      Yes, I'm a Cotto fan and I'm glad you took the time to look at pictures cus you obviously don't read too well. I never compared Malinaggi, Judah, Mosley or Foreman to Mayweather. You said Cotto and Gatti were both slow so I made a point of how a SLOW fighter neutralized faster fighters. Again, reeeaaalllll slow for you, my point was Cotto was deceptively fast and he held a hand speed advantage over....ding, Gatti. If you read my post I already stated that the smart money is on a Mayweather Ud and anything else would be betting on the come.

                      A guy like Cotto is offensive minded or what people would call someone who's willing to give n take. No, he's not a defensive wizard but how many offensive minded fighters are? It's called risk taking genius. Sergio, Pac, Gamboa, Rios, Marquez....are all willing to give some to take some. Stop with the ridiculous claims of "look how red his face is" or "he got hit with 100 fewer punches and look at his face". It's a COMBAT SPORT for a reason!
                      (laughing)...I can read just fine. I just happen to disagree w/ the bull**** ur spewing. I yawn at ur thesis again. All u did was put ur bs on repeat. Anyhow...no sense in beating this dead horse. I'll see u back here may 6th. hahahaha..."combat sport, give some to take some" wutever.

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