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  • Deevel916
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    #71
    Originally posted by PHAZE
    This fight reminds me to the first Sugar Ray / Duran fight, when Ray was the heavy favorite and Duran Upseted him.
    Except that Cotto isn't half the beast that Duran was

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    • flint
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      #72
      can't wait for this one

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      • KTFO
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        #73
        Originally posted by mistermartin
        Umm...let's see. Does cotto move his head..NO! Did gatti...NO...Does cotto have anything resembling a defense...NO!...did gatti Hell ****ing no!....Does cotto like to ****while standing right in front YES! Is Cotto slow...YES! Can HE outbox Floyd NO! NO! & NO!!! All Parallells to the gatti fight. & all equal getting that ass Battered & beat the **** up.

        Cotto's idea of movement was wut we saw in the margarito fight....margarito had one eye & was slow as molasses....anybody check out miguel's face after nine rds of "outboxing" tony (laughing) foh.

        Floyd has the higest connect % in history...he won't be able to miss miguel if he tried. Miguel still gasses. I know he won't try to use movement. He's gonna get beat up & embarrassed. It's a beautiful paralell. Gatti & cotto are both courageous & will stand there & get that azz beat unless his coach or the ref shows mercy.
        I'll pay my respects to Gatti because he was a true blood and guts warrior but he wasn't as talented or dominant in his career as Cotto. 1. Cotto's head movement/ defense may be mediocre but compared to Gatti he would be a defensive genius. Miguel has a solid guard but open for uppercuts which eventually make him vunerable in the later rounds. Gatti was a face first brawler with little regard for protecting himself. 2. Cotto has proven against Malinaggi, Judah, Mosley, Foreman that his hand speed and timing gave him very deceptive punching velocity that negated any speed disadvantages. 3. Gatti made a career of fighting at 155+ and squeezing down to 140. He was always the bigger fighter that gave his fighting style the advantages. Any time he moved up to 147 or fought supremely talented fighters he usually got stopped. Cotto on the other hand is a short and undersized Welter-Jr middle that has relied heavily on his offensive arsenal, intangibles and punching power to carry him. 4. Are you truly that naive to judge a fighter on his face. Yes, Cotto marks up during most of his fights including fights he dominates. Maybe it's his skin type, or pigment or who gives a damn. But that has no bearing on a fighter being successful. Take Maidana for instance, he can take a beating but rarely ever marks up. Does that mean he was successful?

        Now to your parallels, no Cotto will not outbox Floyd. A smart bet is Mayweather UD but as far as azz beatings or stoppages. Get real, Floyd doesn't let his hands go enough to stop any top Welter or Jr middle. Yes, he has a high connect % but doesn't throw in combinations and very rarely will throw more than 45+ punches a round. So far Miguel has gassed only to pressure fighters but we'll see if Floyd's pure boxer style can gas Cotto. Bewilder and confuse maybe, but, I don't see Floyd grinding him down for a stoppage. Cotto dominates Gatti to a highlight reel type win.

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        • ~AK49~
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          #74
          is that gonna be cotto's colors fight night, black and pink?

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          • mathed
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            #75
            Originally posted by Light_Speed
            Floyd doesn't fight like Pac yes, he's even BETTER at feinting, reading his opponent and laying traps.

            Mosley lost but the fight was close enough to go either way.

            Zab lost but he did a lot of damage to Cotto's face and made Cotto do the chicken dance.

            Floyd won't be fooled by Cotto's almost nonexistent feints and Cotto's straight right is not dangerous.
            This was at 147....at 154, Cotto has not been wobbled even once. We'll see in 4 weeks......unless there is a payoff, I can't see how Floyd KO's him. Cotto has never ever been KO'd in his career and Mayweather had to shove a tiny Marquez to the canvas just to knock him down.

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            • mathed
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              #76
              Originally posted by KTFO
              I'll pay my respects to Gatti because he was a true blood and guts warrior but he wasn't as talented or dominant in his career as Cotto. 1. Cotto's head movement/ defense may be mediocre but compared to Gatti he would be a defensive genius. Miguel has a solid guard but open for uppercuts which eventually make him vunerable in the later rounds. Gatti was a face first brawler with little regard for protecting himself. 2. Cotto has proven against Malinaggi, Judah, Mosley, Foreman that his hand speed and timing gave him very deceptive punching velocity that negated any speed disadvantages. 3. Gatti made a career of fighting at 155+ and squeezing down to 140. He was always the bigger fighter that gave his fighting style the advantages. Any time he moved up to 147 or fought supremely talented fighters he usually got stopped. Cotto on the other hand is a short and undersized Welter-Jr middle that has relied heavily on his offensive arsenal, intangibles and punching power to carry him. 4. Are you truly that naive to judge a fighter on his face. Yes, Cotto marks up during most of his fights including fights he dominates. Maybe it's his skin type, or pigment or who gives a damn. But that has no bearing on a fighter being successful. Take Maidana for instance, he can take a beating but rarely ever marks up. Does that mean he was successful?

              Now to your parallels, no Cotto will not outbox Floyd. A smart bet is Mayweather UD but as far as azz beatings or stoppages. Get real, Floyd doesn't let his hands go enough to stop any top Welter or Jr middle. Yes, he has a high connect % but doesn't throw in combinations and very rarely will throw more than 45+ punches a round. So far Miguel has gassed only to pressure fighters but we'll see if Floyd's pure boxer style can gas Cotto. Bewilder and confuse maybe, but, I don't see Floyd grinding him down for a stoppage. Cotto dominates Gatti to a highlight reel type win.
              I agree, a Mayweather UD is most likely, a stoppage is or KO is going to be extremely hard based on Floyd's style.

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              • The Surgeon
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                #77
                Originally posted by Light_Speed
                Floyd doesn't fight like Pac yes, he's even BETTER at feinting, reading his opponent and laying traps.

                Mosley lost but the fight was close enough to go either way.

                Zab lost but he did a lot of damage to Cotto's face and made Cotto do the chicken dance.

                Floyd won't be fooled by Cotto's almost nonexistent feints and Cotto's straight right is not dangerous.
                Floyds better than Pac, feints better and sets more traps - Agreed.

                As for the rest, The Mosley fight wasnt close enough to go either way. It wasnt. Ive watched it like 30 times and its a CLEAR win for Miguel.

                Zab is or at least was a dangerous puncher and sure he buzzed Miguel a couple of times and cut him but for the most part he was getting beaten to ***** and ended up getting stopped

                Cotto's right hand might not have the power of his left but its a harder punch than anything Floyd throws. It was working real well last time out actually and i think we will see more of it from here on out

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                • Fistic
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Except that Cotto isn't half the beast that Duran was
                  LOL Floyd isn't half the beast Leonard was either.

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                  • mistermartin
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Floyd isn't going to have plaster in his gloves and he doesn't throw punches in the same manner nor volume that Pac does. How you guys think Floyd will simply beat Cotto to a pulp is beyond me.

                    It's only going to take a few punches from Cotto to have Floyd thinking twice about every punch and flinching at every feint.....I thought you guys watched Floyd fights before? Cotto is twice the size of Gatti, and much faster. Judah made Flod's glove touch the canvas, Mosley almost dropped Floyd and had him hanging on for dear life...Cotto broke both those guys down.

                    Floyd will be slower at 154 and Cotto will be stronger.....I think a lot of people will be just as surprised at how well Cotto performs as they were at how well JMM performed against Pac. This is provided there is no behind the scenes payoff in place that we don't know about.
                    No sir. Did he break shane down?? Zab yes...w/ the help of a thousand low blows also. When was the last time Cotto looked like a world class fighter? U guys want so desperately for someone to beat or even pose a challenge to mayweather that u just reach. Cotto has a very good trainer I will admit that. He's very knowledgeable & very scientific in his approach to preparation. But they aren't up against a normal fighter. Or even a vulnerable fighter. Cotto has Zero chance to win this match. I was in PR in feb. Not even the PR people believe he can win this fight. They know it's for a payday.

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                    • Bullrider
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by cotto#1p4p
                      You can bet your home and your car, this will be Floyd's toughest fight to date. You'll be extremely disappointed if you're expecting a blowout and much more ridiculous is to read all the people in here saying Mayweather will win by KO.
                      A lot of opinionated "fans" here are not betting. They love to claim that Mayweather will stop Cotto. But they're not even betting their worthless e-points, let alone their cars and homes. They just love to talk. The walking is non-existent.

                      Their opinions are worthless right now.

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