Comments Thread For: Ray Leonard: Mayweather, Pacquiao are Hurting Legacies

[jbpanama]

your logic is very flawed. and dont come in here and pretend like you call the facts down the middle. and ask ANY ONE with skill in negotiations they will tell you,if you walk away from the offer and then come back with a weak mea culpa, there is no way that offer comes back up. since you spit on the first offer, since it was such a load of crap, how do you have the unmitigated gall to come back and say ok we'll take your offer. and this is after floyd told them this was a one time offer. and if manny was such a global power, how come the biggest non-heavy wt title fight was floyd v oscar? how come floyd v jmm out sold TWO pac v jmm fights by250k? please and pac is so polite why did he wt drain cotto even though he was fighting at welter wt limit of 147? please egard you dont fool any one dont come here and say you dont care about pac then sit here in front of every one and jack him off. nobody is that ******. and many times when some one posted a negative about pac, you jumped all over them like a teen age girl defending the jonas brothers.

Your one to talk about, Flawed Logic....******O!!!

[jbpanama]

hey i dont seem to recall floyd EVER offering another fighter 10% to his 90% so if you are going to call one fighter greedy call them all out.

No El BOY, just makes offers, he knows won't Fly...
It's called PUNKING OUT....DIMWIT!!!

[Pacquiao'd]

I think Sugar Ray Leonard has a point. But, then reality will tell us that the fight won't happen. Floyd Jr goes to jail, and Pacman gonna retire and concentrate on his political career.

bwahahaha. thats funny

[jbpanama]

floyd NEVER agreed to a 24 day cutoff. that was roach's counter offer to floyds 14 day cut off. and floyd said again 14 day cut off. then roach and pac said go jump in the river. it was pac and roach that walked away from the first round of negotiations.

and the, CHUMP continues to Profess, His SELF PRESERVATION....
Can't risk the precious 0, against Bona Fide Competition!!!

[jbpanama]

I could be wrong, and there are posters out there who can correct me, but.... was it not that Pacquiao agreed to a 24 day cut-off and Mayweather countered with 14 days. It was the Pacquiao side which came down to 14 days and then were told that it wasn't being offered any more. So, since Mayweather wouldn't accept Pacquiao's good faith compromise, which had actually been first proposed by Mayweather, it was obvious that he really was only making a fool of everybody. As I've already pointed out, Greenburg and Kizer testified to this. His motive? Feeling "good".... What we call Chutzpah. Mayweather is more full with this than any boxer I've ever heard of....except Muhammed Ali.

At that, I seem to have a dim memory of Mayweather, during these Pacquiao offers, saying that the offer was only open for a certain amount of time, so you may be right in part.

Truth is that the Testing B.S. was a Smoke Screen....Brilliant way to PUNK OUT!!!

[Pacquiao'd]

agreed............................

[jbpanama]

LOL at the crap you just posted. and he is from grand rapids in the great state of michigan. i wont even began to list some of the shameful reasons the sissy from the wild card gym has offered. and add the fact he FINALLY agreed to a 14 day cut off AFTER it was off the table. which only means he should have taken it in the first place. and i admire the sugar ray. but, imo the hawk would have done to him what he did alexis arguello. like arguello sugar ray was a master boxer. but the hawk was a beast with ko power in both hand and a dam good boxer with a real trainer in manny stewart. ray leonard was no dummy. for you to say sugar would have beat the hawk easily, you must have been smoking some good stuff.

The Hawk, as I remember, was trained by Panama Lewis..."no the Bottle I Mixed" Cat,
and Alexis was a Blowen Up Feather weight, and SRL, was a Full Fledged WW, and the Hawk would have been Competitive, but going up to WW, would have been a problem against Leonard!!!

[tatangb45]

SO you don't blame manny for turning down the offer in Dec 2009. But its floyd's fault for the fight not happening?

Why do so many of you have a problem with floyd wanting both fighters to take OST before a fight? There is no sane reason ANY manny fan can come up with for him not agreeing to both take tests. As such, then you say well its only floyd's fault for asking?

In what world do you hold another man accountable when you make a bad decision? Please explain this!

Aren't you the guy who keeps saying that Pac is a one-dimensional, no defense, low IQ midget? Yet you also keep insisting that this hyped boxer must first take ost before he can face your idol, the one whom you consider to be the best. Please explain this.

Btw, in what world would a demand for ost or no fight suddenly becomes, as you called it, an 'offer'?

[Capaedia]

He was scared of hearns and hagler...come on man, we all kno Ray had to muster up the courage to fight those guys...Dude was shaking in his drawlz

Of course he was scared. Tyson admitted he was scared of every opponent he faced. Didn't do them much good did it?

Doesn't change the fact that Leonard fought and beat better and more accomplished fighters than Pryor, was never at the same weight as Pryor, and if that wasn't enough, tried to make the fight happen, with Pryor.

Pryor wasn't even a hot topic (at a different weight-class) until Leonard was signed to fight the Duran rematch. Are you really suggesting that Leonard was choosing to fight Duran over Pryor because he was scared?

[jbpanama]

The Hawk, as I remember, was trained by Panama Lewis..."no the Bottle I Mixed" Cat,
and Alexis was a Blowen Up Feather weight, and SRL, was a Full Fledged WW, and the Hawk would have been Competitive, but going up to WW, would have been a problem against Leonard!!!

Argullo went up 3 weight classes to fight the Hawk; and I was at the second fight at Caesars,and remember, wondering, how Pryor, would have done, as a Middleweight???