Floyd could have had a DQ loss to Judah?

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  • daggum
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    #41
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Floyd is really 40-2.

    He'll never reach the legendary 46-0 mark.
    i know he's so pathetic. chris john will soon be 47-0. must be heart wrenching for calzaghe to see someone surpass his greatness so soon.

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    • Roman Moreno
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      #42
      Originally posted by _original_
      I got a question then, what does "the fighter cannot be saved by the bell" indicate? I thought the bell could still could ring while the ref is counting but it cannot save the fighter???
      Lets say the knockdown happens at the 2:59 mark. The ref starts counting. It will hit the 3 minute mark then 3:01, 3:02, 3:03 etc etc.

      Instead of ringing the bell at the 3 minute mark you just don't ring you. By the letter of the ABC rules and by the Texas commission. You can't ring the bell while a count is going.

      Now if the fighter can't continue the ref can stop it. Regardless if it's at the 3:07 mark. Because, he can't be saved. But, the bell isn't suppose to ring during the count.

      Because, again once the bell ring. the 1 full minute rest begins. No matter what they have to have 1 full minute. Now if the ref decides he can continue even if it's 7 seconds after the 3 minute mark. The timekeeper rings the bell to signify the end of the round and proceed with the 1 full minute rest period.

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      • #1Assassin
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        #43
        its a diffrent situation since judahs corner also ran into the ring. hell everyone did it was a god damn riot ffs. the ref wouldnt have been wrong to say roger was the first man in the ring so floyd should be the only one punished and DQ him but i personally dont think thats the right decision.

        again it was a god damn riot, caused not by roger running into the ring but judah blatantly and savagely fouling floyd on purpose not once but twice, something which also could have led to a DQ considering it was clearly no accident. the right move was to let the incidents cancel eachother out and let the fight continue imo.

        maybe most importantly it was a very high profile fight which makes it much harder for the ref to DQ someone, whenever theres foul play on both sides they usually try to kill the situation and let the fight go on.

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          #44
          Originally posted by daggum
          i know he's so pathetic. chris john will soon be 47-0. must be heart wrenching for calzaghe to see someone surpass his greatness so soon.
          He has a two draws.

          Sir Joseph's legacy is safe

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            #45
            pacquiao should have been DQ'd for illegal wrap stacking

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              #46
              Originally posted by #1Assassin
              its a diffrent situation since judahs corner also ran into the ring. hell everyone did it was a god damn riot ffs. the ref wouldnt have been wrong to say roger was the first man in the ring so floyd should be the only one punished and DQ him but i personally dont think thats the right decision.

              again it was a god damn riot, caused not by roger running into the ring but judah blatantly and savagely fouling floyd on purpose not once but twice, something which also could have led to a DQ considering it was clearly no accident. the right move was to let the incidents cancel eachother out and let the fight continue imo.

              maybe most importantly it was a very high profile fight which makes it much harder for the ref to DQ someone, whenever theres foul play on both sides they usually try to kill the situation and let the fight go on.
              The difference situation is that Floyd cornerman broke the rule when inside the ring during a round whether it was on a time or not the round was yet to be over. Whether or not Joel went into the ring after is irrelevant. Fact is Roger broke the rules went in(first) there for "surrendering" Floyd fight.

              While Molina cornerman didn't break the rule, the round was over and went inside the ring. The timekeeper messed up by wrongly ringing the bell while the count was on.

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              • daggum
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                He has a two draws.

                Sir Joseph's legacy is safe
                really? well he sucks. chavez jr has a draw as well. the only real threat to calzaghe is the 42-0 Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin
                  its a diffrent situation since judahs corner also ran into the ring. hell everyone did it was a god damn riot ffs. the ref wouldnt have been wrong to say roger was the first man in the ring so floyd should be the only one punished and DQ him but i personally dont think thats the right decision.

                  again it was a god damn riot, caused not by roger running into the ring but judah blatantly and savagely fouling floyd on purpose not once but twice, something which also could have led to a DQ considering it was clearly no accident. the right move was to let the incidents cancel eachother out and let the fight continue imo.

                  maybe most importantly it was a very high profile fight which makes it much harder for the ref to DQ someone, whenever theres foul play on both sides they usually try to kill the situation and let the fight go on.
                  yeah after roger started punching judah. it was a riot which roger caused but i guess causing riots isn't a good enough reason to dq someone.

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                  • FeFist
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                    #49
                    It is at the refs discretion. If Mayweather was not DQed when he should have been Judah would have appealed the loss to have it turned into a No contest.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by FeFist
                      It is at the refs discretion. If Mayweather was not DQed when he should have been Judah would have appealed the loss to have it turned into a No contest.
                      They did appeal, there was a whole big hearing on that fight that led to Judah getting suspended for a year.

                      I think Roger got some penalty also, which caused him to not be allowed to work the Baldomir fight.

                      They certainly didn't see enough wrong to change the result becuase it was a cluster fuck~ since about the only dude who didn't do anything wrong was Floyd who just sat in a neutral corner~
                      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 03-25-2012, 04:40 PM.

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