True or False? Mayweather has fought the #1 Guy At Every Weight

[vironaprile8]

There was no negotiation between Top rank (Mayweather promoter) and Tsyzu, Tsyzu was tied to fight Mitchell after 2 years of injuries, That's why he lost his belt to Gatti (WBC), Tsyzu had a long list of mandatory waiting which include Hatton, Tsyzu wasn't going to fight Hatton after he KO Mitchell and was threaten by Hatton promoter (Warren), Warren then proceed to offer Tsyzu one of the best deal just to stop Tsyzu from wanting to go after Gatti and to a lesser extent Mayweather, And he then duly lost his wrestling match

lol, If hatton had tsyzu ref for his fight with mayweather do you think he would of won?

[IronDanHamza]

at 130 and 135, yes.

mosley looked good for 2 rounds. he was coming off of a huge layoff. the man he beat for the title had just been busted trying to load his wraps, and is almost certain to have used loaded wraps in winning the title from cotto.

we've gotten a better look at his state during that fight in hindsight. floyd fought a very shopworn mosley, whose supposed great victory over margarito was very misleading.


and cotto might be ranked number one at jr mw today by the ring, but he's still essentially a WW, and he's far past his best days. i dont think he's the best in the world at the weight by a long stretch.

floyd had an opportunity to fight him when he was on top at WW but he turned it down

I see what you're saying but the TS isn't asking if he necessarily fought the best fighter at ever weight he's asking if he fought the #1 ranked fighter at every weight class he's been in.

And technically, after May 5th, he will have fought a '#1 ranked' fighter at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154.

This, despite being nothing but a technicality, is a fact.

[New England]

Pssss ...

(whispering) He's basically saying that you don't realize yet that what you wrote was asss backwards and inaccurate.

Check your facts.

you provide nothing positive to the forum

i can say to a degree of near certainty that you didnt even read what i had to write

and to a degree of absolute certainty that i don't care what you've got to say about it.



the post was centered around the state of mosley at the time of the floyd fight, which over time became apparent to be very deteriorated


i am not discreting his taking the fight. instead i'm discrediting the quantity that mosley was.

manny pacquiao was a better WW at the time. his performances against margarito, clottey, and cotto in reverse order were around the time of the mosley fight.

pacquiao was a better WW at the time. i dont need the rankings of ring magazine to tell me that, especially given that we do have hindsight. shane went out after the floyd fight and lost to sergio flippin mora
mosley was still the champion by virtue of a victory over margarito (who has since been completely exposed as a cheater. where is his bone breaking punching power?)



and floyd absolutely had the opportunity to fight cotto
does that make it a duck? no. does that mean he was scared?
no
there were times when that fight was in demand and possible and the fighters went different routs for whichever reasons you want to believe

never at any point would i have picked floyd mayweather to do anything other than outbox cotto for 12 rounds and win an easy UD

[New England]

I see what you're saying but the TS isn't asking if he necessarily fought the best fighter at ever weight he's asking if he fought the #1 ranked fighter at every weight class he's been in.

And technically, after May 5th, he will have fought a '#1 ranked' fighter at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154.

This, despite being nothing but a technicality, is a fact.

right. i am not dis*****g their rankings at the time.

was mosley really the best WW at the time (given the layoff, given the nature of the margarito victory and the weight it carried that it should not have carried given margarito's cheating?)
no. he was basically all done. he went straight to a draw to sergio mora where he looked god awful.


i'm discrediting the wins.

[them_apples]

Besides 140?

130 - #1 Ranked Diego Corrales/Genaro Hernandez (both P4P fighters)
135- Lineal Lightweight Champion Jose Luis Castillo 2x
147 -Top 4 P4P and Welterweight Champion Shane Mosley
154 - #1 Ranked and WBA 154 lb Champion

Mosley wasn't. Was an alright fight, but people wanted the pac fight even back then.

[hugh grant]

Why doesnt Floyd ever fight the best fighters? If he was into fighting the best or mosst dangerous fighters, he would make a list of the most dangeorous fighters, write the names on a piece of paper and put them in a bag. He would blindfold himself and pick a name out of the bag and he would have to fight that person, be it Pac, Sergio or whoever.

SSM wasnt the no1 it was Cotto who beat SSM. Floyd waited too long and that is why Cotto lost eventually. SSM, Cotto and Margariot all have one win a piece against each other. Floyd has one win as well, and that was against SSM.

[Brother Jay]

you provide nothing positive to the forum

i can say to a degree of near certainty that you didnt even read what i had to write

and to a degree of absolute certainty that i don't care what you've got to say about it.



the post was centered around the state of mosley at the time of the floyd fight, which over time became apparent to be very deteriorated


i am not discreting his taking the fight. instead i'm discrediting the quantity that mosley was.

manny pacquiao was a better WW at the time. his performances against margarito, clottey, and cotto in reverse order were around the time of the mosley fight.

pacquiao was a better WW at the time. i dont need the rankings of ring magazine to tell me that, especially given that we do have hindsight. shane went out after the floyd fight and lost to sergio flippin mora
mosley was still the champion by virtue of a victory over margarito (who has since been completely exposed as a cheater. where is his bone breaking punching power?)



and floyd absolutely had the opportunity to fight cotto
does that make it a duck? no. does that mean he was scared?
no
there were times when that fight was in demand and possible and the fighters went different routs for whichever reasons you want to believe

never at any point would i have picked floyd mayweather to do anything other than outbox cotto for 12 rounds and win an easy UD

Oh really? Let's take a look at what I was referring to.

mosley looked good for 2 rounds. he was coming off of a huge layoff.

You said that to say what? Mosley was coming off a FOTY and he knocked out the #1WW. What's your point? You could have only said that to diminish the value of a win over Mosley. Mosley had refused two fights with Floyd at that point.

the man he beat for the title had just been busted trying to load his wraps, and is almost certain to have used loaded wraps in winning the title from cotto.

Almost certain? Do you see how you try to slip conjecture in your statements as almost matter of fact? Based simply on YOUR OWN say so?

we've gotten a better look at his state during that fight in hindsight. floyd fought a very shopworn mosley, whose supposed great victory over margarito was very misleading.

Misleading? Misleading how? How was Mosley shopworn? Mosley has NEVER done well at 154lbs. This is truth if you look at his record. Who at 147 other than Forrest & Floyd has ever made Mosley look shopworn? These are the kinds of statements that need to be substantiated. Yet you cannot.

and cotto might be ranked number one at jr mw today by the ring, but he's still essentially a WW, and he's far past his best days.

Who at 154 has done more than Cotto right now? Martinez is not campaigning at 154. So again, who has done more at 154lbs? You speak strictly from emotion.

i dont think he's the best in the world at the weight by a long stretch.

See the question above. Your lack of a solid answer will show you where you really stand.

floyd had an opportunity to fight him when he was on top at WW but he turned it down

Cotto was on top for EIGHT months only. Eight months later and he was savagely beaten bloody. Basically, you're desperate enough to suggest that Floyd is at fault for not seeking out Cotto within that 8 month window to make a fight while he was in retirement. A retirement, for the record, that was announced more than 6 months before Cotto finally found relevance at WW.

Keeping in mind that Cotto had refused a fight with Floyd earlier at jrWW, which means that he didn't want the fight. And with Cotto admitting recently that he never wanted a Mayweather fight until now, your point carries about as much weight as pocket lint.

You need to learn your boxing ... because as of right now you're about one step short of being a paqtard. Seriously.

[DeadLikeMe]

I wouldn't say he outright fought the best, but he has generally fought the best available throughout his career. I see him get hated on here for fights like Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, Manfredy. Those weren't bad fights when he took them at all. I could do the same for higher weights, but I think that has already been rehashed. Just because all these dumbass bandwagon Pacman stans started watching boxing a few years ago and don't know anything about these fighters, doesn't make them any less decent fights in their time.

I voted false, because he didn't fight the best of the best in my eyes. Quite often however, it really wasn't his fault those fights didn't get made.

[turbotime]

right. i am not dis*****g their rankings at the time.

was mosley really the best WW at the time (given the layoff, given the nature of the margarito victory and the weight it carried that it should not have carried given margarito's cheating?)
no. he was basically all done. he went straight to a draw to sergio mora where he looked god awful.


i'm discrediting the wins.

How was Margarito cheating? He got caught before the bout.

[pgolf]

Yes @ 130 & @135
no @ 140, 147 & 154