True or False? Mayweather has fought the #1 Guy At Every Weight

[New England]

How was Margarito cheating? He got caught before the bout.

cheating in previous fights

cotto mostly. and golden johnson. cotto was the fight that got margarito the status that at the time made him such a big win for mosley. marg was the lineal champion and on the p4p list.

it's clear as day that margarito was cheating against cotto and golden johnson.

especially against cotto. the power in the first margarito fight was nowhere to be seen in the second fight. you cant get much better circumstantial evidence

the intention was to point out (and it should be obvious) that the margarito win for shane was greatly overrated at the time. margarito should not have beaten miguel cotto.

he was busted for attempting to load wraps for the first time against an opponent that the guy he just beat up defeated? you believe that?


and floyd's win over shane (while he was taking on the lineal champion,) was over a faded fighter whose biggest win was overstated
and mosley went on to do absolutely nothing and suck in every fight he's been in since


pacquiao was a better WW at the time that floyd fought shane. even though he's not the champion he'd dust cotto at 154, 147, hw, it does not matter.

i am not blaming floyd for the fight coming off. that depends on the timeframe. both sides are responsible for the fight not coming off at one time or another.

[Kagami Taiga]

At 130: Yes. Genaro and Corrales were the best guys there no doubt.

At 135: Yes. Castillo was the best LW of his era.

At 140: No. Gatti was a good fight but he didn't end up fighting Tszyu or Hatton there. Though he got Hatton in 07' anyway. Tszyu, they were negotiating that fight to happen after Floyd-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton, but Kostya lost, oh well.

At 147: Well Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, so neither really have fought the "Top" because they are the top. But, aside from them, I'd say yes to both guys. Pac fought Cotto, and Floyd fought Mosley and Ortiz when they were ranked at the Top of the division aside from Manny and Floyd themselves.

At 154: Yes. Cotto is the #1 SWW right now, the best fight that could have been made.

Pacquiao-

At 112: Yes. Sasakul was the best guy there at the time.

At 122: No. Ledwaba was a good fight and so was Lucero. But, from 2001-2003, Joan Guzman and Oscar Larios were the best SBW there. He would end up fighting Larios later on, but only after Larios lost.

At 126: Yes. Barrera was the best guy there no doubt.

At 130: No and yes. Morales was a good fight, but he only beat him after losing to Raheem. Marquez was probably the best SFW though in 2008 when they rematched. But, from 2005-2008, Manny didn't fight Valero or Guzman, the other Top SFW's there.

At 135: No. Diaz was a good fight, but at the time, Nate Campbell was probably the best LW after beating Juan Diaz.

At 140: Yes. Hatton was the RING champ and unbeaten at that weight. But, an argument can easily be made that Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley were champions at 140 in 2009 and were probably better at that time than Hatton.

At 147: Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, and they haven't fought each other. But, aside from them, Pac did beat Cotto who was one of the best WW's.

At 154/150: No. Margarito was a go awful fight for a vacant title. Dzinziruk was probably the best there. Either him or Cotto in late 2010. Yuri Foreman had already lost to Cotto earlier in the year and Sergio had left 154 by late 2010.

i think u misunderstand the question the #1 guy is not necessarily the best guy. at 147 floyd fought the champion baldomir and the #1 ww shane. so he has fought the #1 guy.

[turbotime]

cheating in previous fights

cotto mostly. and golden johnson. cotto was the fight that got margarito the status that at the time made him such a big win for mosley. marg was the lineal champion and on the p4p list.

it's clear as day that margarito was cheating against cotto and golden johnson.

especially against cotto. the power in the first margarito fight was nowhere to be seen in the second fight. you cant get much better circumstantial evidence

the intention was to point out (and it should be obvious) that the margarito win for shane was greatly overrated at the time. margarito should not have beaten miguel cotto.

he was busted for attempting to load wraps for the first time against an opponent that the guy he just beat up defeated? you believe that?


and floyd's win over shane (while he was taking on the lineal champion,) was over a faded fighter whose biggest win was overstated
and mosley went on to do absolutely nothing and suck in every fight he's been in since


pacquiao was a better WW at the time that floyd fought shane. even though he's not the champion he'd dust cotto at 154, 147, hw, it does not matter.

i am not blaming floyd for the fight coming off. that depends on the timeframe. both sides are responsible for the fight not coming off at one time or another.

lmao, you're doing nothing but speculating. no one knows whether or not marg had illegal pads in his gloves vs cotto, to automatically assume so is ignorant, especially if youre sole purpose for doing it is to discredit other fighters

[New England]

lmao, you're doing nothing but speculating. no one knows whether or not marg had illegal pads in his gloves vs cotto, to automatically assume so is ignorant, especially if youre sole purpose for doing it is to discredit other fighters

hello?

have you even seen mosley's recent fights? we dont even need to speculate about margarito (though virtually everybody in boxing has made same conclusion, and that he was cheating.)

when mayweather fought shane he was not the quantity at WW that manny would have been. he was the champion by virtue of a victory over a man whose every win under capetillo has to be questioned.
get over it.

that shouldnt be the end of the world for you

[daggum]

Oscar was #3 ranked when Floyd fought him.

what are you looking at? these are end of the year rankings. he was number 6 at the end of 2006 and yes he was number 3 at the end of 2007 even though he lost his only fight. they moved him up because he did good against floyd i guess plus lots of other guys fell off. at the time of the fight he was number 5-6 depending on whether mosley was removed or not.

[daggum]

Daggum who is your fav boxer? I know it's not floyd but tell me tho

chris john 46-0 can't beat that.

[turbotime]

what are you looking at? these are end of the year rankings. he was number 6 at the end of 2006 and yes he was number 7 at the end of 2007. they moved him up because he did good against floyd i guess.

He was #3 when Floyd fought him though, they are pubished at the start of each year. Which is why mosley is gone from the rankings all of the sudden because he dropped back down.

Regardless, he's fighting the #1 guy Cotto in May.

[daggum]

He was #3 when Floyd fought him though, they are pubished at the start of each year. Which is why mosley is gone from the rankings all of the sudden because he dropped back down.

Regardless, he's fighting the #1 guy Cotto in May.

these are the end of the year rankings. you can tell. look how it has mosley as champ in 2003. he didn't fight oscar till september of 2003 so it's obviously not the start of 2003.

[turbotime]

these are the end of the year rankings. you can tell. look how it has mosley as champ in 2003. he didn't fight oscar till september of 2003 so it's obviously not the start of 2003.

And in 2007 Oscar moved to #3 on the strength of the Mayorga KO.

[daggum]

And in 2007 Oscar moved to #3 on the strength of the Mayorga KO.

that fight took place in the year 2006. he was ranked number 6 at the end of the year 2006. he didn't have any more fights until fighting floyd and none of the guys above him lost between the end of 2006 and the floyd-oscar fight.

here i'll give you an example. go look at the 2011 rankings for junior middle. they have kirkland above angulo so obviously they aren't the start of 2011 rankings because kirkland wasn't even ranked/active. kirkland beat angulo at the end of 2011.