SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[The Big Dunn]

I do believe that this is the most simplistic post I've ever seen in this site....even for BIG D... And that's saying a LOT!!.

Hard to imagine that even BIG "B"... would take 3 years to realise that an athlete refusing to tke a simple test would look "guilty".... Apart from the "bended".....

Thanks for your vote of confidence. Coming from you it means so much.

[PACsmash]

So Koncz has never negotiated a fight for Manny?

Knoncz was there to present some offers to team mayweather. Is this not called neogotiating?? was knoncz just there to look at Floyd? now has floyd ever requested ost for any of his pass opponents, yes or no?

[PACsmash]

I asked a simple question and Deevel nor Pacsmash can answer.

Already did brahh.. My reply was does that mean he can't? U still have answer that? Was koncz there to seal the deal and sign the fight right then and there? Of course not, but he was there to TRY and see if he can work something out.

[-§unny-]

In case you didnt know, Konz is to Pac what Ellerbe is to Floyd minus the loyalty.

This is the better way to put it.

[Teri]

It took you all this time to give me THIS answer? A few pages back you were sure that he was negotiating with Mayweather, now "nobody knows but Pac's camp"? If you don't know, say so.

Deevel is trolling you man I don't see how you all argue with some of these childish pac fans look how he flip flops everything you respond with smh

[PACsmash]

Yeah, according to Coach, Konz flew to LV from the Philippines just to hang out with Roger, Floyd, and 50cent. LOL. Never mind the fact that Floyd stated he was trying to WORK OUT A DEAL WITH KONZ for a fight with Pac. I guess Floyd was lying!

Yea according to coach koncz doesn't negotiate for manny. Koncz is just there to look pretty.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd demanding a date is not negotiation, Floyd not allowing PAC to get any of the ppv shares is not negotiation. Floyd offering PAC a set purse is not called negotiation. Team PAC sending koncz to Floyd is called negotiating, team PAC trying to compromise by counter offerin what Floyd demanded is called negotiating.

Pacsmash there is no question manny was willing to negotiate at the times you discuss. But Manny had already refused a good deal. You and deevel and others act as if manny is entitled to the same deal he refused. I don't think he is. So you guys are cool when manny says no but when floyd does it there is this huge problem.

Bottom line is manny waited too long to agree to OST. Floyd went from 30 to 24 to 14 days and manny still wouldn't agree to it. He only agreed when media people began to question why anyone wouldn't agree to OST in this day and age. You guys are giving manny credit for finally agreeing to 14 days when you should be questioning what took so long.

WHy is manny entitled to get the same deal he turned down?

[PACsmash]

Pacsmash there is no question manny was willing to negotiate at the times you discuss. But Manny had already refused a good deal. You and deevel and others act as if manny is entitled to the same deal he refused. I don't think he is. So you guys are cool when manny says no but when floyd does it there is this huge problem.

Bottom line is manny waited too long to agree to OST. Floyd went from 30 to 24 to 14 days and manny still wouldn't agree to it. He only agreed when media people began to question why anyone wouldn't agree to OST in this day and age. You guys are giving manny credit for finally agreeing to 14 days when you should be questioning what took so long.

WHy is manny entitled to get the same deal he turned down?

Why shouldn't he? Remember take the test we gotta fight? Manny turn the ost request down. Both Floyd and manny couldnt come to an agreement on the cut off date. Everything else was agreed on, why should it change now?

[DeadLikeMe]

We had gone weeks without any OST/weight limit penalty threads. The streak is over.

[PACsmash]

The deal breaker for the first time was the ost cut off, not the split not the location not the ring size not the weight size not the glove size BUT the cut off. So why should there be a new demand if ost was the only issue before???