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  • PACsmash
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    #81
    Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
    whos the p4p #1 right now espn say it floyd
    espn also called floyd a coward. so are they correct then?

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    • VERSION1 (V1)
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      #82
      Originally posted by PACsmash
      espn also called floyd a coward. so are they correct then?
      yes next question

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #83
        Originally posted by AFighter4U
        better testing? that's doubtful. victor conte, the guy who reinvented drug cheating considered OST EASY TO BEAT.
        Still, obviously better than the current one. If anything.

        And didn't Conte say he believes Pacquaio was on Steroids?

        Do you take his word for everything?

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #84
          Originally posted by sapaw
          ^^^^^ there
          If you offer 50/50 then you are a terrible businessman. I don't believe you would because your lawyers and promoter would advise otherwise.

          You keep referencing later discussions. As I said before, there shouldn't have been a need for further negotiations because the best offer was the 1st one.

          Look man, manny just made a bad decision. Thats not floyd's fault. Thats like blaming manny for floyd beating his baby's mom.

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          • Deevel916
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            #85
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Nothing. Besides, ther is no need for other negotiaitions when you turn down the best deal initially. You can't expect to get a better deal or the same deal next time around. Of course you know this but because you are a manny fan you are pretending not to.

            Lets say ytou wanted to buy this site. You offer reed $10 mil. Reedd says go **** yourself. # months later, reed is bankrupt and has to sell the site. You gonna offer him $10 mil?

            HELL ****ING NO!!!!!
            Ok, so since a 50/50 split with non cutoff OSDT > 50/50 split with a 14day cuttoff. Therefore since Floyd turned down the 50/50 split, Pac has the right to take the testing off the table since it was the best deal thus far and Floyd turned it down. By your standards, Pac should take the deal off the table then.

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            • AFighter4U
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              #86
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Still, obviously better than the current one. If anything.

              And didn't Conte say he believes Pacquaio was on Steroids?

              Do you take his word for everything?
              nope. not better. just different.

              you do realize that conte helped athletes cheat on OST for YEARS without getting caught?

              he said it is a possibility that manny's taking steriods. just like every boxer out there.

              and he also said that floyd should have accepted manny's counter offer of seven days without testing before a fight.



              i don't accept everything conte says. only on things he's known to be the best at, which is drug testing. (cheating it that is)

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              • Deevel916
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                #87
                This is what baffles me.

                All along Floyd was ok with a 50/50 split. The purse split was never an issue up until now. Pac mentioned to a reporter that he would take less to make the fight if that's what's going to get Floyd in the ring. All of a sudden Floyd wants to hold Pac to that and refuse to fight him for a 50/50 split. If something that Pac said to some obscure reporter is going to make Floyd back out of the purse split deal that they had already settled on, I have to question how bad Floyd wanted this fight in the first place. Remember folks, when Floyd was on his twitter crusade, all he said was that Pac had to take the test. That's all! Once Pac agreed, Floyd thru up another roadblock! This is pure facts that can not be refuted!

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by PACsmash
                  pac is not looking to buy a site. ur making this look at pac is the challenger again. NONE of these 2 are the challenger. if a deal is half way done but only 1 thing is in the way then that 1 thing should only be the issue. when u go and make another request after another it just shows u are avoiding for a reason. this is not a fight where pac has to take or his legacy will have a question mark after it. BOTH of these guys need to fight eachother.
                  when floyd was #1 p4p, he was ODH's challenger.There can only be one #1. While I agree manny is the strongest #2 since Holyfield, he is still #2. Bottom line dude, he made IMO a bad business deal when he refused to fight because of OST. He made himself look guilty when he wasn't and he simply didn't realize this was a rare occasion when the best offer was the first one.

                  Manny is essentially asking for the same deal he turned down in Dec 2009. He should've taken it then.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    nope. not better. just different.

                    you do realize that conte helped athletes cheat on OST for YEARS without getting caught?

                    he said it is a possibility that manny's taking steriods. just like every boxer out there.

                    and he also said that floyd should have accepted manny's counter offer of seven days without testing before a fight.



                    i don't accept everything conte says. only on things he's known to be the best at, which is drug testing. (cheating it that is)
                    i saw his post and was wondering whether he hadn't realised this too

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                    • PlayerKiller
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                      #90
                      All I know is Floyd could be on somethig of of the training camp.

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