SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[Deevel916]

Floyd did say that 2 years ago. If you expect everything to be the same now you are being delusional. It's like manny can take as long as he wants to agree. GTFO! Coupons don't last a lifetime dude.

So if I am understanding your point you think that floyd, once manny rejected the deal, floyd should keep that same deal in place until manny accepts it, no matter how long it takes manny to do so? Is that reasonable?

Floyd did not only say that 2yrs ago, he's been saying it as recent as this past negotiation that just passed. He only came out with that B.S offer of no ppv revenue for Pac once he understood that Pac was on board for full OSDT. Tell me where I'm wrong?

[thuggery]

people seem to forget about the mysterious cut and some mysterious venue being built by bob arum

[PACsmash]

The rest is changed because manny didn't just reject OST, he rejected the whole deal. If you expect everything to be the same other than OST then you are being delusional. It has nothing to do with wanting the fight.

So if I am understanding your point you think that floyd, once manny rejected the deal, should keep that same deal in place to manny accepts it, no matter how long it takees manny to do so? Is that reasonable?

You forgot to answer if you think Manny is gonna offer Cotto the same amount for the rematch since Miguel turned him down to fight floyd this time? Or, you think JMM is gonna fight Manny a fourth time for the same amount as the 3rd time?

Floyd doesn't want it then, there is no way of going around this. If ost was the only issue ost should be the only issue. And to answer ur question about cotto and marquez, if they both turn down pac's offer went to fight someone else lost 2-3 times then comes back asking for the same offer from PAC of course it won't be the same! Why? Because they went and fought somone else and lost.

Now since the deal breaker from floyd and PAC have PAC went and lost or gotten ko by someone else? Now if that happen then yes pac lost all creditbility to demand for an even split but this didnt happen. After the deal breaker PAC went on and did just about as good as Floyd If not even better in terms of ppv and eveything else so again how is floyd asking for more now makes any sense???

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd did not only say that 2yrs ago, he's been saying it as recent as this past negotiation that just passed. He only came out with that B.S offer of no ppv revenue for Pac once he understood that Pac was on board for full OSDT. Tell me where I'm wrong?

you are wrong because manny brought up the issue of purse split in the same video you and others posted where he said he had"no issues with testing". If you want to blame floyd for a ****ty offer, we agree. The $40 mil no ppv was a crappy offer and manny should of refused it.

That said, I see no problem with floyd making *****ty offers because Manny turned down a very fair offer just because floyd wanted OST. It was a ****** move on Manny's part. He made a decision and has to deal with the consequences.

You know what, when floyd makes ****** mistakes, you guys expect him to pay for it. Hold manny to the same standard.

[madsweeney]

Same thing Victor Conte said, not that Roach should be saying anything about this subject.

[Deevel916]

you are wrong because manny brought up the issue of purse split in the same video you and others posted where he said he had"no issues with testing". If you want to blame floyd for a ****ty offer, we agree. The $40 mil no ppv was a crappy offer and manny should of refused it.

That said, I see no problem with floyd making *****ty offers because Manny turned down a very fair offer just because floyd wanted OST. It was a ****** move on Manny's part. He made a decision and has to deal with the consequences.

You know what, when floyd makes ****** mistakes, you guys expect him to pay for it. Hold manny to the same standard.

So let me understand this.

What you're saying is, because both sides couldnt agree on a cutoff date back in 09, that its Pac's fault that Floyd is offering him a ****ty deal now in 2012?

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd doesn't want it then, there is no way of going around this. If ost was the only issue ost should be the only issue. And to answer ur question about cotto and marquez, if they both turn down pac's offer went to fight someone else lost 2-3 times then comes back asking for the same offer from PAC of course it won't be the same! Why? Because they went and fought somone else and lost.

Now since the deal breaker from floyd and PAC have PAC went and lost or gotten ko by someone else? Now if that happen then yes pac lost all creditbility to demand for an even split but this didnt happen. After the deal breaker PAC went on and did just about as good as Floyd If not even better in terms of ppv and eveything else so again how is floyd asking for more now makes any sense???

I didn't ask if they lost. why did you change it to fit your argument? Just answer my questions like I have yours.

It makes sense from a business perspective if you are floyd. Look around dude. Floyd has 3 very lucrative options, cotto, canelo, khan (in england). He also has Martinez. Manny has JMM 4 (which JMM will surely get a bigger cut) and what?

[PACsmash]

I didn't ask if they lost. why did you change it to fit your argument? Just answer my questions like I have yours.

It makes sense from a business perspective if you are floyd. Look around dude. Floyd has 3 very lucrative options, cotto, canelo, khan (in england). He also has Martinez. Manny has JMM 4 (which JMM will surely get a bigger cut) and what?

I'm explaining to u what u asked me! if Marquez and cotto went and fought someone else and won all their fights then comes back and try to work out a deal with PAC then yes whatever money split they agreed on before should still be the same this is basing off if they won all their fights since turning down pac's offer. now I asked u again have PAC lost since the deal breaker between floyd? Again PAC went and did everything just as good if not PAC was able to rack in more money so how is Floyd demanind for more makes any sense? This is the second time I'm asking u this with no answer.

[PACsmash]

I can understand why Floyd doesnt want a 50/50 anymore If PAC would have Lost a few of his fights after the deal breaker between him and Floyd. This was not the case so again Dunn give me a good reason as to why floyd deserves more now when they both did about the same numbers from their previous fghts?

[The Big Dunn]

So let me understand this.

What you're saying is, because both sides couldnt agree on a cutoff date back in 09, that its Pac's fault that Floyd is offering him a ****ty deal now in 2012?

Really dude. This is what you think I'm saying.

I'm saying its manny's fault he turned down a very fair deal in dec 2009. Since he turned that deal down, to expect to get the same deal 30 months later is ridiculous.