Haye could probably beat Vitali right now

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  • dan_cov
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    #11
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Haye would definitely beat him now IMO, that is why Boente is doing everything he can to avoid this fight.

    If Vitali don't want to fight Haye because he is past it, then do the honorable thing an retire instead of fighting some gimme fight and robbing the fans of a true heavyweight title clash.

    I always thought Vitali was a man who the convictions of his words but all the talk of knocking Haye out and wanting to fight him, seems just talk.

    If you are going to talk the talk, then walk the walk, if not shut the hell up.


    Lets not forget all the talk Haye did, the lies & the pulling out of fights with the brothers before finally getting in the ring with Wlad.
    He spent 3+ years doing it.

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    • -Lowkey-
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      #12
      After the Chisora fight I think so, I think Haye could beat the Vitali that fought Chisora. I know Vitali hurt his left arm in the fight so I don't know how much you can draw from that but it is what it is.

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      • Phil Ivey
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        #13
        How is Haye still so overrated on these forums? Haye has done absolutely nothing at HW... him not getting KO'd by Wlad was actually a bigger achievement then his win over Valuev. He's not knocking Vitali out, his power is vastly overrated and will be backing up the whole fight. He's a career cruiser weight.

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        • wladimir1988
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          #14
          this entire heavyweight era is dog**** and deserve to die. Hopefully the new era produce us some amazing heavyweights with giant personalities and skills to match.

          David 'sugar' Haye have the athletic abilities to crush both Klits, but he's just too lazy, too cautious. Unless a george foreman like life changing incident happens to Sugar Dave, I don't see him changing his style. But if it does and Handsome Dave suddenly becomes Nigel Benn, then watch that **** fly and both Kbros end up comatose.

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          • Superflo777
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            #15
            He's been inactive for a year and his own trainer said he looked like shit in sparring.

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            • Jam Jars
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              #16
              Originally posted by dancovboxer
              I'm not surprised he hardly was able to hit him, all Haye fcukin' did was run like a ***** and fall to the canvas every 2 seconds.

              Did an awful lot of running for somebody with a broken toe that was causing severe pain & discomfort.

              Guys like Thompson & Chisora although not as skilled will actually try & give it a go though! Chisora has a style that will & did give Vitali problems & any other HW on the planet for that matter.
              He had a reach disadvantage and everytime he got close Wlad held. What do you want him to do stand infront of Wlad until he falls over? Anyone with a big size/reach disadvantage is not going to beat Wlad because if they get anywhere near him he holds and puts his weight on them. BS tactics that are against the rules but have become acceptable in most peoples eyes.

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              • Paclan
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                #17
                you guys are underrating old age

                and haye's speed. I know what my eyes see, vitali is not the same and he's gonna keep slowing down.

                Remember, all haye needs is to land one clean shot to change a fight.
                Last edited by Paclan; 03-12-2012, 08:45 AM.

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #18
                  Is it possible with his skills and athleticism? Sure

                  Will he win? no way

                  Haye's put out put as a HW is one of the lowest in history. Vitali on the other hand is a pressure fighter with one of the highest punch out puts.

                  No to mention that he doesnt come to win, he comes to survive and cash in.

                  Only way for him to win is a KO and he's not gonna be like Chisora, in Vitali's face all night. He's gonna be far away trying to pot shot all night long

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Paclan
                    you guys are underrating old age

                    and haye's speed. I know what my eyes see, vitali is not the same and he's gonna keep slowing down.

                    Remember, all haye needs is one clean shot to change a fight.
                    Vitali has an iron chin and Haye has one of the lowest punch outputs ever.

                    This Haye thing with 1 clean shot is soooo fuccking old. He hasnt landed anything of note against any HW he has faced let alone Vitali

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                    • Paclan
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Vitali has an iron chin and Haye has one of the lowest punch outputs ever.

                      This Haye thing with 1 clean shot is soooo fuccking old. He hasnt landed anything of note against any HW he has faced let alone Vitali
                      Really? he landed pretty hard against the heavyweights I've seen him against.
                      Minus Wlad, who didn't allow him to land anything.

                      How long have you been watching heavyweight boxing? This is the division where anybody can knock anybody out.

                      and chins dont last.

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