Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'll Be Very Aggressive, Attack Cotto Early

[Aidonia]

I think he'll try to but once he realizes Cotto is too strong he will revert to plan b, he might press late on once he has broken Cotto down though.

[Atreyu Khalil]

That's not a shoulder punch in that video that's a missed punch aimed at the chin that floyd uses his shoulder to avoid. Even a stiff jab to the shoulder blade is more effective than a missed one to the chin. Someone who's been in the ring knows that a missed punch takes way more energy that one landed or partially landed anywhere on the body.

What?! He clearly aims for the shoulder...thats a blatant shoulder punch.

[rrsports03]

If you watch Cotto vs. Branco you'll understand what I'm talking about. Cotto hits Branco in the right shoulder so many times with his left hook that it dislocates and he's forced to stop fighting.

[freedom213]

C'mon man. Ortiz surely had his agressive moments, but Floyd was the mian agressor int hat fight 75% of the time at least, and that fight wasn't all that competitive aside from a moment or two in the 2nd round and about 15-20 seconds in the 4th round.

Floyd did the EXACT SAME thing to Gatti and Mosley that he did to Ortiz. Only Ortiz looked at the ref after they embraced and Cortez said time in, instead of getting back to fighting, and he got knocked out. Mosley tried to tackle Floyd to the ground and Shane was perfectly content just talking instead of getting back to fighting and Floyd clocked him in return.

Was Floyd not in control when he did that to Gatti and Mosley???? He was, just like the Ortiz fight. Even the 2nd and 4th, Ortiz' only moments in the fight, he was out landed by a ton. I've never seen a guy get out landed as bad as Ortiz was getting out landed and have people say "Floyd wasn't in control of the fight".

And while I agree that Shane was past his prime in May 2010, it was a legit fight when it was made, and no one can argue that. After Floyd whupped Marquez, I remember Kellerman saying Shane Mosley should without a doubt be in the discussion for a mega fight with Floyd or Manny, after he knocked out Margarito. And I remember Arum and Roach saying Floyd would duck Shane because he was too much of a risk at that point. And I remember posters on this site saying Shane was going to be a problem for Floyd.

And as far as Floyd being on the ropes eating punches....are you serious??? That reminds me of the Floyd-Oscar fight where people would overreact to new levels anytime Floyd was on the ropes, regardless if the punches were landing or not. Even the last flurry by Ortiz before he headbutted Floyd, he landed 2, maybe 3, punches in that flurry. The rest completely missed or landed on Floyd's shoulders and arms, and then he tried to headbutt him out of frustration.

Floyd was in total control of that fight, aside from about a combined 1:00 of that fight, if that. I just don't see how you can win all 4 rounds, at the very least 3 rounds, and not like how the fight is going. Victor never had Floyd seriously hurt at all, sorry. Before the headbutt, when people say Ortiz had Floyd really hurt, Floyd was avoiding punches and smiling at Ortiz, and than the headbutt happened. I've never seen a fighter out land his opponent by that much and have people say he wasn't in control of the fight.

I can argue against that.


14 months - thats how long Shane's layoff was when he stepped thru the ropes to face Mayweather. Mosley would have been crazy not to take the money and opportunity to face Junior but thats the reality.

This fight will likely be a lot more competitive than most think although you cant discount Mayweathers speed and ability.

To me this fight is all about how effective Cotto can be , how well prepared he can be. We know what Mayweather can do and thats typically pretty consistent but it seems like Cotto is the wild card here as far as what level he can bring to the fight.

[Atreyu Khalil]

I think he'll try to but once he realizes Cotto is too strong he will revert to plan b, he might press late on once he has broken Cotto down though.

Too strong? Why is strength a factor in a fight vs Mayweather? Mayweather is 42-0, out of those 42 fights how many of those fighters were perceived to be "stronger"?

[rrsports03]

What?! He clearly aims for the shoulder...thats a blatant shoulder punch.

Watch where Ortiz starts his punch before floyd raises his shoulder to meet the punch. His aim is just above his shoulder towards his chin. At least that's what I see when I watch it. Even if that is a shoulder punch it's not the type of shoulder punch I was talking about anyway....that type of shoulder punch obviously wouldn't work.

If you watch Cotto vs. Branco you'll see the type of shoulder punching I was talking about.

[PAC-BOY]

Does this mean maybe he will throw more than 45 punches a round....

[Atreyu Khalil]

I can argue against that.


14 months - thats how long Shane's layoff was when he stepped thru the ropes to face Mayweather. Mosley would have been crazy not to take the money and opportunity to face Junior but thats the reality.

This fight will likely be a lot more competitive than most think although you cant discount Mayweathers speed and ability.

To me this fight is all about how effective Cotto can be , how well prepared he can be. We know what Mayweather can do and thats typically pretty consistent but it seems like Cotto is the wild card here as far as what level he can bring to the fight.

Leonard was out of the ring 6 years before he faced Hagler.

Mayweather was out of the ring 19 months before he fought JMM. He was also out of the ring 16 months prior to facing Ortiz.

Did any of those layoffs effect the winner?

Stop using the "shane had a long layoff excuse". He's a professional fighter and should always be prepared.

[freedom213]

Until the fight happens all these ideas of what will or won't be effective for each fighter is just speculation. That's the great thing about boxing....people can argue until they're blue in the face but until the fight happens all of these arguments are just ideas based on past performances against previous opponents not on fact. Jab to the body overhand right to the head is a pretty "amateurish" move also (one of the first combos an amatuer would learn) but it worked pretty well for Mosely against Mayweather for that split second in time. Boxing basics should never be considered amateurish, amateruish is not knowing the basics.

Spot on:

the best things we can do is draw from previous fights of both guys and see what troubled them. If I was in camp Cotto I would be pushing him to use what I have seen to be the most successful weapon utilized against Floyd by several opponents: The jab! Oscar actually won rounds with it/did some damage and more importantly to an extent controlled Floyd with it when he threw it. Cotto will need this punch to work on so many levels that I would say its really a make or break scenario for him.

[Atreyu Khalil]

If you watch Cotto vs. Branco you'll understand what I'm talking about. Cotto hits Branco in the right shoulder so many times with his left hook that it dislocates and he's forced to stop fighting.

Don't ever compare Broncos offensive & defensive skill set to Mayweathers. When has any fighter ever been able to land consistency on Mayweather? Cotto doesnt posses the speed or punch variation necessary to land enough effective punches to defeat Mayweather IMO.