Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'll Be Very Aggressive, Attack Cotto Early

[..WaRSpencE..]

If you watch Cotto vs. Branco you'll understand what I'm talking about. Cotto hits Branco in the right shoulder so many times with his left hook that it dislocates and he's forced to stop fighting.

I've been telling people this for years, that you have to systematically chop down Mayweather's arm/shoulder. He won't break/dislocate it like he did Branco, but he'll make Mayweather go to a peek-a-boo style like he normally does when he presses forward or gets hurt, and that'll give Cotto more opportunity to touch the body with left hooks.

I don't see Cotto beating Mayweather, I don't see anybody beating Mayweather from here to 160lbs, seriously.

But at 154lbs, Cotto has the strength and power to **** on Mayweather's shoulders, arms, chest and ribs as much as he can and make Mayweather feel it, that's the best Cotto can ask for at this point.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Spot on:

the best things we can do is draw from previous fights of both guys and see what troubled them. If I was in camp Cotto I would be pushing him to use what I have seen to be the most successful weapon utilized against Floyd by several opponents: The jab! Oscar actually won rounds with it/did some damage and more importantly to an extent controlled Floyd with it when he threw it. Cotto will need this punch to work on so many levels that I would say its really a make or break scenario for him.

I find this funny that whenever someone speaks on the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight they always revert back to the token....."Oscar would have won if he kep throwing the jab AFTER the 6th round"..........well boys & girls I am here to end all of that madness and lame message board fallacies.

Surprisingly, Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs in rounds 10-12, after landing 31 out of 124 jabs in rounds 6-9.....lol

Lets to the math....124+77= 201.....so after the 6th round...Oscar threw 201 Jabs.....he threw 45 jabs in the first 5 rounds......

So TRUTH BE TOLD Oscar actually threw MORE Jabs after the 6th round than he did before the 6th round....lol...

Now please tell where he did Damage?....this is all a MYTH!!!! Oscar didn't land any significant jabs.

[rrsports03]

Don't ever compare Broncos offensive & defensive skill set to Mayweathers. When has any fighter ever been able to land consistency on Mayweather? Cotto doesnt posses the speed or punch variation necessary to land enough effective punches to defeat Mayweather IMO.

No one is making that comparison (Mayweather/Branco) except you in that response. Name one sentence in any of my post where I made that comparison. You said a shoulder attack has "never" been effective and I just gave you an example of a time where it was. It has nothing to do with comparing Branco to Mayweather. It has everything to do with an example of shoulder punching being effective. Obviously Mayweather and Branco are uncomparable...that shouldn't even have to be said.

[GrandpaBernard]

I find this funny that whenever someone speaks on the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight they always revert back to the token....."Oscar would have won if he kep throwing the jab AFTER the 6th round"..........well boys & girls I am here to end all of that madness and lame message board fallacies.

Surprisingly, Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs in rounds 10-12, after landing 31 out of 124 jabs in rounds 6-9.....lol

Lets to the math....124+77= 201.....so after the 6th round...Oscar threw 201 Jabs.....he threw 45 jabs in the first 5 rounds......

So TRUTH BE TOLD Oscar actually threw MORE Jabs after the 6th round than he did before the 6th round....lol...

Now please tell where he did Damage?....this is all a MYTH!!!! Oscar didn't land any significant jabs.

lol Floyd showed the better jab between the two in the Oscar fight. Oscar happens to have a better jab than Cotto

[Atreyu Khalil]

I've been telling people this for years, that you have to systematically chop down Mayweather's arm/shoulder. He won't break/dislocate it like he did Branco, but he'll make Mayweather go to a peek-a-boo style like he normally does when he presses forward or gets hurt, and that'll give Cotto more opportunity to touch the body with left hooks.

I don't see Cotto beating Mayweather, I don't see anybody beating Mayweather from here to 160lbs, seriously.

But at 154lbs, Cotto has the strength and power to **** on Mayweather's shoulders, arms, chest and ribs as much as he can and make Mayweather feel it, that's the best Cotto can ask for at this point.

How is this possible vs the best defensive/accurate fighter ever? How can Cotto employ this tactic while Mayweather is consistently moving his legs, his upper body and countering him at every open opportunity?

[freedom213]

Leonard was out of the ring 6 years before he faced Hagler.

Mayweather was out of the ring 19 months before he fought JMM. He was also out of the ring 16 months prior to facing Ortiz.

Did any of those layoffs effect the winner?

Stop using the "shane had a long layoff excuse". He's a professional fighter and should always be prepared.

Sugar Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather are anomalies to the layoff rule or at least have shown to be able to overcome that in certain instances. In the Hagler fight Hagler himself had been without a fight for 13 months, 11 months previous to that he had an absolute war with John "The Beast" Mugabi, also many thought Leonard lost that fight so look at that in context.

For you to say to me that a layoff doesnt mean anything really says it all.

[Atreyu Khalil]

No one is making that comparison (Mayweather/Branco) except you in that response. Name one sentence in any of my post where I made that comparison. You said a shoulder attack has "never" been effective and I just gave you an example of a time where it was. It has nothing to do with comparing Branco to Mayweather. It has everything to do with an example of shoulder punching being effective. Obviously Mayweather and Branco are uncomparable...that shouldn't even have to be said.

I see what you were saying, but Bronco is a stationary fighter thats isn't a counter puncher.

I said that the shoulder attack wasn't effective vs Mayweather. Thats what I said.

[rrsports03]

I've been telling people this for years, that you have to systematically chop down Mayweather's arm/shoulder. He won't break/dislocate it like he did Branco, but he'll make Mayweather go to a peek-a-boo style like he normally does when he presses forward or gets hurt, and that'll give Cotto more opportunity to touch the body with left hooks.

I don't see Cotto beating Mayweather, I don't see anybody beating Mayweather from here to 160lbs, seriously.

But at 154lbs, Cotto has the strength and power to **** on Mayweather's shoulders, arms, chest and ribs as much as he can and make Mayweather feel it, that's the best Cotto can ask for at this point.

Thanks bro, that's exactly what I was trying to say but no one else on here understands. I agree with you that Cotto is going to have a tough time with Mayweather but I also see certain senarios in which cotto can pull off the upset. That's the beautiful thing about boxing. Some people talk like this fight is already over, but that's the beautiful thing about boxing...on any given night anything can happen..if not then there would be no reason to even have the fight.

[freedom213]

I find this funny that whenever someone speaks on the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight they always revert back to the token....."Oscar would have won if he kep throwing the jab AFTER the 6th round"..........well boys & girls I am here to end all of that madness and lame message board fallacies.

Surprisingly, Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs in rounds 10-12, after landing 31 out of 124 jabs in rounds 6-9.....lol

Lets to the math....124+77= 201.....so after the 6th round...Oscar threw 201 Jabs.....he threw 45 jabs in the first 5 rounds......

So TRUTH BE TOLD Oscar actually threw MORE Jabs after the 6th round than he did before the 6th round....lol...

Now please tell where he did Damage?....this is all a MYTH!!!! Oscar didn't land any significant jabs.

Wow , you should be in politics. I never said Oscar would have won that fight had he kept jabbing. I simply said as is factual it helped him win some rounds and he was more successful when he did it. step off the colors and bold my brother no need simply relax and we can discuss in civility.

[Dedication]

No one is making that comparison (Mayweather/Branco) except you in that response. Name one sentence in any of my post where I made that comparison. You said a shoulder attack has "never" been effective and I just gave you an example of a time where it was. It has nothing to do with comparing Branco to Mayweather. It has everything to do with an example of shoulder punching being effective. Obviously Mayweather and Branco are uncomparable...that shouldn't even have to be said.

Virgil Hunter (Andre Ward's trainer) "Floyd's shoulder is being used to line up his opponent for his right hand, and the worst thing you could do is try and attack the shoulder. If you watch his mittwork, how many times do the mitts hit his shoulder, he's been doing those combinations a 1000 times over - it's a timing mechnasim - once you hit his shoulder, this is where he times you the best."