Has Floyd done enough to be considered up there alongside Ali and SRR?

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  • RlCKY
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    #91
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    Wtf doing calling ot people have to do with anything? Does that mean anything? Why does that mean anything? Get your ass in the room and negotiate a fight. All talk that dude is. He calls out people so guys will think he wants the best.

    But he never ends up in the ring with the best, hmmmm. But he talks about it at least.
    Chavez is "calling out" Sergio too

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #92
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      Come on man......

      Make up all the excuses you want for floyds weak ass opposition. Its all nonsense. I deal in facts. Fact 1, Foyds contemporaries all fought each other in primes for the most part. Oscar fought goddam bhop at 160 for chrissake. Think how ridiculous it is to even dre that floyd would do sething like that.
      Fact 2- floyd fought none of them post 2002.

      To even hint that these guys like winky, cotto, margs, vargas, oscar, tito, shane, jmm, casa or whoever was scared to fight floyd is just mind boggling. Those
      guys for the most part fought everyone. Floyd didnt, not at all. They walked they walked the walk while floyd was busy fighting two box offs for gatti and chasing around the joke that is and was carlos baldomir and basically spending his entire career trying fighting the easiest possible opponents he could find.
      While I maintain respect for you you can't change the truth. Floyd called shane out when he was 7-10 lbs lighter than him when shane was in his prime. Your hero refused, then pimped himself to get a floyd fight when he needed cash. Blame shane, don't penalize floyd. Same with ODH. Too much risk not enough reward, oddly the same **** you are hitting floyd on.

      For you to ask floyd at 135-140 to fight Tito, winky, and Vargas is crazy, and ODH fought BHop at 158 I was there.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        Come on man......

        Make up all the excuses you want for floyds weak ass opposition. Its all nonsense. I deal in facts. Fact 1, Foyds contemporaries all fought each other in primes for the most part. Oscar fought goddam bhop at 160 for chrissake. Think how ridiculous it is to even dre that floyd would do sething like that.
        Fact 2- floyd fought none of them post 2002.

        To even hint that these guys like winky, cotto, margs, vargas, oscar, tito, shane, jmm, casa or whoever was scared to fight floyd is just mind boggling. Those
        guys for the most part fought everyone. Floyd didnt, not at all. They walked they walked the walk while floyd was busy fighting two box offs for gatti and chasing around the joke that is and was carlos baldomir and basically spending his entire career trying fighting the easiest possible opponents he could find.
        Why are you even uttering the likes of Vargas and Trinidad as possible opponets for Mayweater at any point of his career?

        Winky Wright walked away from a Mayweather fight. He priced himself out. So that one really is not mind boggling what so ever.

        Cotto, Oscar, Mosley (until 2009) showed NO interest in fighting Mayweather. None.

        You have a point with Margarito, and you would have had a point with Stevie Johnston. But the rest of the names range from wrong to plain ******.

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          #94
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Why are you even uttering the likes of Vargas and Trinidad as possible opponets for Mayweater at any point of his career?

          Winky Wright walked away from a Mayweather fight. He priced himself out. So that one really is not mind boggling what so ever.

          Cotto, Oscar, Mosley (until 2009) showed NO interest in fighting Mayweather. None.

          You have a point with Margarito, and you would have had a point with Stevie Johnston. But the rest of the names range from wrong to plain ******.
          Those are names of contemporaries that managed to fight other prime contemporaries, not necessarily who floyd could have fought.

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          • RlCKY
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            #95
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            Ali and SRR?





            good lord what's happened to this place
            It's one thing to pose the question. It's another for people to use crazy logic to try and prove it.

            Floyd is one of my favorites to watch, but he just isn't close to Ali and SRR.

            There's really no need for this whole thread...the thread title could have been answered in one post and then it could have been closed.

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              #96
              Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
              Ali and SRR?



              good lord what's happened to this place
              I dunno Mak.....NSB has been a den of mindless nuthuggery since I been here :dunno9:

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                #97
                Originally posted by JoeWbbmest311
                lol he was calling him out before that fight was signed. I never said anything about HOF'ers on Floyd's resume. My whole point with Floyd is what we do and don't know about him that is it.

                Weight has NOTHING to do with Floyd/Sergio. Get it out of your head that Sergio is Middleweight champion. Sergio is willing to come down to fight Floyd in a division where Floyd already won a title and is fighting for another one.

                Yes there is a difference...the difference is that DLH and Shane were "unwilling to face Floyd" according to you. Sergio is willing; he is practically begging for the fight.
                So floyd was at 140 calling out 147 lb champions. Sergio is the 160 lb champ calling out the 147 champ for a fight at 154 and you equate the two. Not the same to me but whatever. Imagine if floyd called out JMM, or ward called out cotto. Yeah.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Why are you even uttering the likes of Vargas and Trinidad as possible opponets for Mayweater at any point of his career?

                  Winky Wright walked away from a Mayweather fight. He priced himself out. So that one really is not mind boggling what so ever.

                  Cotto, Oscar, Mosley (until 2009) showed NO interest in fighting Mayweather. None.

                  You have a point with Margarito, and you would have had a point with Stevie Johnston. But the rest of the names range from wrong to plain ******.
                  I know, i know everyone's scared of floyd but they've all managed to fight better comp. And floyd did everything humanly possible to make those fights.


                  Shall we return to the winky thread in the history section?

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    So floyd was at 140 calling out 147 lb champions. Sergio is the 160 lb champ calling out the 147 champ for a fight at 154 and you equate the two. Not the same to me but whatever. Imagine if floyd called out JMM, or ward called out cotto. Yeah.

                    What does sergio calling floyd out have to do with anything? Its a good challenge for floyd (much better than cotto and alvarez) and its at a weight floyd fights at.

                    Another chance for floyd to challenge himself that he will surely bypass.

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                    • RlCKY
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      So floyd was at 140 calling out 147 lb champions. Sergio is the 160 lb champ calling out the 147 champ for a fight at 154 and you equate the two. Not the same to me but whatever. Imagine if floyd called out JMM, or ward called out cotto. Yeah.
                      So what about when Floyd beats Cotto? Sergio would have won his fight by then and will most likely challenge the winner for the WBA 154 lb title, which will be Floyd. What'll it be then?

                      He's going back to 147? He's only going to fight Pac? Sergio don't know **** about boxsin'

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