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  • #51
    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
    Only problem with that assumption is that Cottos trainer can't make Cotto any faster, now Cotto is quick but Floyd is quicker, even quicker than pacquiao according to Mosley, then there is accuracy, when Ortiz attempted to duck and move to avoid Floyd's right, Floyd nailed him right in the face several times while Ortiz was in the process of bobbing and weaving. Can't play chess with Floyd best bet is for Cotto to pressure pressure pressure and take risks, other than that we will see cotto's head boucing like a bobble head doll all night like just like Mosley was lol...
    I don't disagree, LOL. Though Ortiz has lackluster head movement and defense at best, Cotto can't sit there waiting on Floyd, it's effective, smart pressure that wins the fight. Cotto is fast ENOUGH, defense is pretty good (he even imitates the shoulder roll, though not like Floyd) and timing (which he used to beat faster fighters), should make it interesting. He has to come in and out throwing combos, sticking the jab, watch the right hand counter and keep the smart pressure on Floyd.
    Last edited by PRking718; 02-08-2012, 01:32 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      I just hope that all the people who are saying that Cotto will beat or be a tough fight for Floyd give him full props once Floyd dismantles Miguel. Cotto is good but Floyd is on another level all together. Once Cotto realizes he can't hurt or hit Floyd, he will get discourage and then Floyd is going to mentally take advantage and walk Miguel down, hitting him at will.
      Thats just the thing no one is saying Cotto isn't a good to one of the great fighters of this era, arguably worthy of HOF status, but we are talking about one of the best to put on a pair of gloves who is already pretty much a certified HOFamer in Floyd Mayweather. Cotto just has too many flaws for Floyd, Cotto usually gets his way when he fights and when he doesn't he often gets discouraged and gives in mentally, something I've never seen Floyd do. Anything can happen in a fight though. Floyd could break his hand, get cut, re injure his vunerable ribb, but the likelyhood of something like that happening against a cotto who goes in there thinking he can play chess with Floyd is pretty slim...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ghidra View Post
        I really like Cotto as a fighter, but remember this guy got a split decision against Joshua Freakin Clottey, and that's after Cotto knocked him down in the first round. I really don't see Cotto winning any more than 4 rounds against Floyd.
        Miguel was stomping his (Clottey's) head. Only after the headbutt and the massive bleding Clottey was able to up his tempo. Cotto was one eye'd and working at less than 100%. Clottey's performance that night was aid by the cut over Cotto's. That is all. No cut, Clottey would not had lasted 6 rounds.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
          what does Floyd's SD vs Oscar have anything to do with Cotto who is 5 inches shorter than Oscar and imo doesn't hit as hard as a 2007 de la hoya at 154...
          I was commenting on a post that someone said about Cotto getting a split decsion over Clottey....and at the end of the match a win is a win.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Manuel6 View Post
            You are probably right. I was being generous. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it out of the 4th round.
            Bradley may be able to make a good show of it! I'm not completely down on him. He's not undefeated for a reason and tho u watch him fight and you're never really WOWd. He finds a way to win so maybe just maybe he will make something happen

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PRking718 View Post
              I don't disagree, LOL. Though Ortiz has lackluster head movement and defense at best, Cotto can't sit there waiting on Floyd, it's effective, smart pressure that wins the fight. Cotto is fast ENOUGH, defense is pretty good (he even imitates the shoulder roll, though not like Floyd) and timing (which he used to beat faster fighters), should make it interesting. He has to come in and out throwing combos, sticking the jab, watch the right hand counter and keep the smart pressure on Floyd.
              That will all depend on how much Cotto has left in the tank, If he comes out and starts slow he can forget about it. If he comes out fighting hard and making Floyd think early, it may just up his chances.... slightly lol..

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                Thats just the thing no one is saying Cotto isn't a good to one of the great fighters of this era, arguably worthy of HOF status, but we are talking about one of the best to put on a pair of gloves who is already pretty much a certified HOFamer in Floyd Mayweather. Cotto just has too many flaws for Floyd, Cotto usually gets his way when he fights and when he doesn't he often gets discouraged and gives in mentally, something I've never seen Floyd do. Anything can happen in a fight though. Floyd could break his hand, get cut, re injure his vunerable ribb, but the likelyhood of something like that happening against a cotto who goes in there thinking he can play chess with Floyd is pretty slim...
                First off when does Cotto not get his way? Against a freaking cheater and when he was forced to come in at 145 with NO TRAINER and no passion for b oxing. His whole camp was dedicated to making sure he was on point with weight, hence him coming in low at 144. Thats pure BS bro when does COtto gove up mentally? He kept pressure on Clottey with ONE EYE and got the SD. I thought it was a tie with the Knockdown but OK, this is a man who has great shell defense. Pacman even got frustrated with him, and whenever Clottey let his hands go he hit Pac. Have you ever cut weight off your already slim body to make a catch weight? Cotto has mental strength like anybody else on Earth. Vs Pac, he only changed his gameplan after getting rocked for trying to KO Pac. Cotto boxed Mosley and never gave up. He won that fight, UD, no controversy.

                @GRUSTLER, CORLEY HIT COTTO ON THE TEMPLE, OF COURSE HE WAS DANCING. It was a perfectly placed shot, dazes just about anyone. How about the body shot that sent that niga to the ropes? LOL! Zab got beat convincingly. If you listen to the commentators after Cotto hits him with the first REAL low blow (let's not forget his drama queen exaggeration attempts at getting out the fight), Lampley notes that he had already recovered from the uppercuts, which I saw too, and that it was a mistake. Hello, that was when Cotto was a fearless body puncher, **** happens. I have seen fighters get low-blowed and come back to win fights, even by KO. So if Zab was better than Cotto you need to check that again. Few fast uppercuts ain't ****, you need more than that for Cotto to back down. We all saw what happened bro, Cotto walked him down with effective pressure and Zab was not strong enough. If Cotto does a similar style without trying to KO May he is good. Unless he TKO/KO's Floyd, he is going the full 12 that's for sure.

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                • #58
                  As for Bradley, imo he seemed to take a step back rather than forward during the cassamayor fight. He didn't seem to be the same Bradley who fought Holt, Peterson and Alexander imo. He always talks about how he's so sure he can compete against Pacquiao, but the moment Manny catches him clean I see Bradley doing one or all of 3 things, either getting knocked out, knocked down, or going into a shell and fighting timid for the remainder of the fight to avoid getting knocked out...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                    Only problem with that assumption is that Cottos trainer can't make Cotto any faster, now Cotto is quick but Floyd is quicker, even quicker than pacquiao according to Mosley, then there is accuracy, when Ortiz attempted to duck and move to avoid Floyd's right, Floyd nailed him right in the face several times while Ortiz was in the process of bobbing and weaving. Can't play chess with Floyd best bet is for Cotto to pressure pressure pressure and take risks, other than that we will see cotto's head boucing like a bobble head doll all night like just like Mosley was lol...
                    I can see your a real Mayweather fan but to tell you the truth this is not going to be a walk in the park for Mayweather....it's going to be a hell of a fight I can't wait to see it.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by jmramirez42 View Post
                      I remember Mayweather getting a split decsion in the DelaHoya fight.....and btw Clottey was on the ropes for like 2 mins while Cotto was pounding on his body and head...not to mention that Cotto had a serious gash over his eye..It was Clottey's fault for not knowing how to finish a one eyed boxer not Cotto.
                      The Oscar Floyd fought at 154 would have beat Cotto in my opinion.

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