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  • #41
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Cotto in my opinion was a good opponent on paper for Floyd because he was undefeated and fought some good tough fights but anyone that can't adjust on the fly and rally for the win under pressure ain't beating Floyd. I keep saying this. Once Cotto started to fight tougher guys he could not out pressure or out muscle things began to become more difficult. He fought a tough close fight with Shane Mosley back in 2007. No way he would have beat Floyd, sorry people. Floyd is going to back Cotto up in this fight. I read a lot of post and feel like many of you never really watched Mayweather fight throughout his career. Dude may act like a b!tc# outside of the ring but inside Floyd is tough as nails. Cotto's going to get goon'd in that fight. Floyd makes adjustments during his matches and is mentally strong under adversity. Cotto is good but he will not beat Floyd.

    I think Bradley has a better shot at beating Pac. When has Pac fought an undefeated fighter who is prime and winning? Pac has been in some lopsided fights until Marquez and is a lil worn. Bradley knows how to box,move and apply pressure. I would not be surprised if Bradley won that fight. People give Pac too much credit like they did when he was going to fight JMM a 3rd time. Talking about he was going to KO JMM in the early rounds? Any boxer/fighter who uses movement and doesn't charge forward is a problem for Pac.
    I don't give Bradley much of a shot. Nothing is really in his favor. skill wise or negotiation wise. (speed, power, glove size, ped testing) Plus he is no where near the counterpuncher JMM is. He's a come forward fighter that let's his hands go with little pop! Trading with PAC is a recipe for destruction. He's gonna get hurt! And That camp knows they have to be brutal and win impressively or they are gonna lose even more ground in the JR negotiations

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Manuel6 View Post
      Cotto in my opinion will give Mayweather the fight of his life. Primarily, because Mayweather is not a pressure fighter and will not force Cotto to exhaust himself. Not to mention it will take Cotto 3-4 rounds before he's able to find Mayweather. Mayweather's defense and agility is going to frustrate Cotto. But, Cotto's laser jab may keep Floyd's straight right at home more often than would be normally be the case, and Floyd just doesn't hit hard enough to put Cotto on a defensive posture. I can see Floyd outboxing Cotto, hitting him with a few good quick shots, but I cannot see a one-way massacre. Cotto is too strong, too good. It should be a good match-up.

      Now Bradley could make Pacquiao look bad...Or, Pacquiao will make Bradley look like an amateur. It all depends on how able Bradley can get over "Pacquiao shock" (that oh **** moment when 5 punches from 4 different angles just hit you). I don't think speed will be the deciding factor in this fight. Bradley's ability to neutralize Pacquiao's offense will be. It will be the difference between a KO win by Pacquiao or a decision. I don't see anything in Bradley that can overcome Pacquiao. Bradley does not box well enough nor does he hit hard enough to stave Pacquiao off. That said, it should be a good show anyway, if for nothing else to see whether Pacquiao really is diminishing.
      You're not taking into account that Floyd is a lot faster, a bit taller and much longer than Cotto, he will be able to counter over Cotto's jab with ease.. you are right about Floyd not being a 1 punch KO artist, but he does hit hard enough to make one think twice about rushing in recklessly, I think he hits pretty hard though, I'd say if Ortiz didn't headbutt him that he was well on his way to being stopped legitimately going into a fight with Floyd with no respect for his physical strength isnt the smartest thing to do vs Floyd..

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      • #43
        Originally posted by bray26 View Post
        I don't give Bradley much of a shot. Nothing is really in his favor. skill wise or negotiation wise. (speed, power, glove size, ped testing) Plus he is no where near the counterpuncher JMM is. He's a come forward fighter that let's his hands go with little pop! Trading with PAC is a recipe for destruction. He's gonna get hurt! And That camp knows they have to be brutal and win impressively or they are gonna lose even more ground in the JR negotiations
        You are probably right. I was being generous. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it out of the 4th round.

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        • #44
          I remember Mayweather getting a split decsion in the DelaHoya fight.....and btw Clottey was on the ropes for like 2 mins while Cotto was pounding on his body and head...not to mention that Cotto had a serious gash over his eye..It was Clottey's fault for not knowing how to finish a one eyed boxer not Cotto.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            You're not taking into account that Floyd is a lot faster, a bit taller and much longer than Cotto, he will be able to counter over Cotto's jab with ease.. you are right about Floyd not being a 1 punch KO artist, but he does hit hard enough to make one think twice about rushing in recklessly, I think he hits pretty hard though, I'd say if Ortiz didn't headbutt him that he was well on his way to being stopped legitimately going into a fight with Floyd with no respect for his physical strength isnt the smartest thing to do vs Floyd..
            Cotto and his trainer are on point for the right hand counter trust me, he's Cuban it ain't a lie what Roach said, Cotto should do very well if they come up with a gameplan to avoid the counter right hand.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by jmramirez42 View Post
              I remember Mayweather getting a split decsion in the DelaHoya fight.....and btw Clottey was on the ropes for like 2 mins while Cotto was pounding on his body and head...not to mention that Cotto had a serious gash over his eye..It was Clottey's fault for not knowing how to finish a one eyed boxer not Cotto.
              what does Floyd's SD vs Oscar have anything to do with Cotto who is 5 inches shorter than Oscar and imo doesn't hit as hard as a 2007 de la hoya at 154...

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                The only thing Cotto has going for him is the fight being at 154, because at 147 it's a non starter with fans, Although in reality its not that much different at 154 either. Cotto may be naturally bigger, but Floyd is still taller and a lot longer, Floyd also has this weird way of making himself appear much bigger in the ring like he did with Ortiz and Mosley, Ortiz outweighed Floyd by 15 pds yet Floyd appeared to be taller and fresher..people will see exactly what i mean vs Cotto. Floyd will appear to be much bigger than Cotto, whos quite a bit smaller than Ortiz..
                I just hope that all the people who are saying that Cotto will beat or be a tough fight for Floyd give him full props once Floyd dismantles Miguel. Cotto is good but Floyd is on another level all together. Once Cotto realizes he can't hurt or hit Floyd, he will get discourage and then Floyd is going to mentally take advantage and walk Miguel down, hitting him at will.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                  You're not taking into account that Floyd is a lot faster, a bit taller and much longer than Cotto, he will be able to counter over Cotto's jab with ease.. you are right about Floyd not being a 1 punch KO artist, but he does hit hard enough to make one think twice about rushing in recklessly, I think he hits pretty hard though, I'd say if Ortiz didn't headbutt him that he was well on his way to being stopped legitimately going into a fight with Floyd with no respect for his physical strength isnt the smartest thing to do vs Floyd..
                  I'll give you that. But, Floyd is just not active enought to make all that count in such a way as to cream Cotto. I just don't see it. Yeah, he's going to catch him with some rights and check hooks, but that's to be expected. The problem is that Cotto is just too good. By too good I mean he is not the type of one trick pony that anyone can just walk in feeling good about. He has a great jab and a great left hook. Stamina should not be an issue becaues he's not going to work as hard against Floyd like he has against say Pacquiao or Margarito. And even though his defense is not stellar...again he's not being hit enough by somebody with great power. His biggest frustration will be trying to hit Mayweather. Anyone who watched the Clottey fight closely could tell that he was really struggling trying to get to Clottey. Mayweather is similar but his defense has more to do with agility. Mayweather's style will win him this fight if anything. He won't rout Cotto...no way.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by PRking718 View Post
                    Cotto and his trainer are on point for the right hand counter trust me, he's Cuban it ain't a lie what Roach said, Cotto should do very well if they come up with a gameplan to avoid the counter right hand.
                    Only problem with that assumption is that Cottos trainer can't make Cotto any faster, now Cotto is quick but Floyd is quicker, even quicker than pacquiao according to Mosley, then there is accuracy, when Ortiz attempted to duck and move to avoid Floyd's right, Floyd nailed him right in the face several times while Ortiz was in the process of bobbing and weaving. Can't play chess with Floyd best bet is for Cotto to pressure pressure pressure and take risks, other than that we will see cotto's head boucing like a bobble head doll all night like just like Mosley was lol...

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                      Interesting posts I have been reading here. I don't agree that Bradley has a better chance than Cotto. I think it's disrespectful to Cotto. Mayweather has never faced Cotto's style before. Cotto has faced fast fighters, good counter-punchers, volume punchers, power punchers before. The pressure is on Mayweather and Cotto knows this. He's the under dog, he reads how people think he's finished; these are all motivational factors for a true professional of the ring. He will leave it all in the ring on May 5th and I give him more than a chance to win. He will throw his great stiff and fast powerful jab. He's going to be smart about his punches and he will land to the body often. He's a very smart fighter. As far as Bradley goes, he doesn't have much of a chance and will get stopped simply because Manny is an all-time great who thrives off fighters who try and out will him. He's coming off a controversial win and he cares what people think of his fights. He'll be pissed off and motivated and that's a dangerous PAC. I look for him to get an impressive win against a proven undefeated fighter. Mayweather should win on paper, but I don't see it that way. I think based on resumes alone, he and Cotto should be held in the same class. If it hadn't been for the catch-weight against PAC and the Cheeto, he'd be undefeated as well! Don't forget that guys. It will be a fresh and intriguing next four months in boxing.
                      Me, you and just a handfull of other NSB posters will be here waiting for excuses if Cotto pulls this one off. I think he is a tougher fight now for May than in 2007. Cotto has a greater trainer and has learned from mistakes.

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