Cotto has a good chance of beating mayweather!

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  • SWEETSCIENCE100
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    #191
    Originally posted by mikemurni
    Cotto actually stand a fair chance agains Floyd.. In fact, this is a better fight than the fight with Ortiz, which is more like a tune-up.. Floyd is fighting a legitimately bigger opponent... Its not close to the even odds compared to his fight with Mosley, but its still acceptable simply because Cotto is a bigger fighter, and is a pressure fighter with decent boxing skills...
    When will you guys get it, Pressure fighters are taylor made for Mayweather, he is a counter puncher. Counter punchers love come forward pressure guys, it makes the fight easy. Most Pressure fighters can not fight backing up, usually once you have a pressure fighter backing up,that means hes starting to submit. Cotto will be Ko'ed if he follows Mayweather around that sqared circle.

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    • SWEETSCIENCE100
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      #192
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
      why are you bringing up your menstrual cycles? I thought you were bringing up points, and I'm shooting them down. What so unique about Cotto that Mayweather hasn't ever seen before?
      I'll answer that, NOTHING!

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      • freedom213
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        #193
        just so we can keep it real.... Cotto is the obvious underdog here that said he does have some tools that could lead to an upset and before I go there remember these upsets?



        These are simply the high profile upsets in the sport there are many more and Im sure a lot of boxing historians on here who could provide lots of details on those less well known upsets

        Cotto has the potential equalizer in a great and punishing jab. If he is able to find success with the jab he can build offense off of that in ways that Floyd's other opponents have pretty much been unable to do.

        Again look at the limited success Oscar had with his jab. When he used it he not only scored well but also dictated the fight and blunted Floyd's offense.

        Interesting fight and I think a strong possibility to happen.

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          #194
          Originally posted by akScoundrel
          Its more a hypothetical question, more or less addresing your previous post (#130 i think).

          Obviously floyd is the favorite to win, but cotto most certainly has a legitimate shot at beating floyd. A better shot than floyds pervious opponents in recent years.
          O.K. now we're on the same page. In principle, I agree with the above statement, particularly that Cotto has a better shot than Floyd's previous recent opponents.

          I thought De La Hoya did well with the amount of pressure he attempted to apply (although ultimately much of it wasn't very successful), and I expected more from Mosley coming off the back of the Margarito win. In hindsight considering what happened in the Marquez fight, Hatton did well considering his lack of technique.

          I don't agree with the specifics. I don't see the evidence that he can be outwilled (if you point me to it I'll gladly reconsider) but of course the problem is that we know he isn't going to be outskilled. So this is what led to my original post/rant. I'll apologise for it 'cause reading it back it comes across as a personal insult aimed at your thread. It was born out of frustration.

          The frustration comes from this. There is such a gulf in class between Floyd and his opponents that we're tuning in to watch a fight and we end up witnessing an exhibition. I've come to the point personally where I feel that pre fight analysis is almost redundant. The best I can hope for if Cotto does face him is that he'll give a better account of himself than either Marquez or Mosley did. Because watching those fights was a painful experience.

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          • Jim Tom
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            #195
            Originally posted by akScoundrel
            Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather.

            Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred.

            I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming.
            Clottey broke Cotto's will and how will Cotto behave when he's being schooled and embarassed?Low blows like he did Judah will not work because Mayweather's too smart

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            • ~AK49~
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              #196
              Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya
              Clottey broke Cotto's will and how will Cotto behave when he's being schooled and embarassed?Low blows like he did Judah will not work because Mayweather's too smart
              Lol, no he didnt. Only margarito and pac have broken cotto's will. One was likely cheating with bricks in his gloves, and the other one of the greatest offensive fighters that has ever boxed.

              Yet, cotto is shot and overrated huh?

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                #197
                Originally posted by Stokely
                O.K. now we're on the same page. In principle, I agree with the above statement, particularly that Cotto has a better shot than Floyd's previous recent opponents.

                I thought De La Hoya did well with the amount of pressure he attempted to apply (although ultimately much of it wasn't very successful), and I expected more from Mosley coming off the back of the Margarito win. In hindsight considering what happened in the Marquez fight, Hatton did well considering his lack of technique.

                I don't agree with the specifics. I don't see the evidence that he can be outwilled (if you point me to it I'll gladly reconsider) but of course the problem is that we know he isn't going to be outskilled. So this is what led to my original post/rant. I'll apologise for it 'cause reading it back it comes across as a personal insult aimed at your thread. It was born out of frustration.

                The frustration comes from this. There is such a gulf in class between Floyd and his opponents that we're tuning in to watch a fight and we end up witnessing an exhibition. I've come to the point personally where I feel that pre fight analysis is almost redundant. The best I can hope for if Cotto does face him is that he'll give a better account of himself than either Marquez or Mosley did. Because watching those fights was a painful experience.
                Hmmm, im not so much as stating that he will be outwilled, but his will will be tested like never before. Mayweather is a great fighter, and it wouldnt surprise me for him to rise to the occasion.

                Ultimately, the argument i am trying to make is cotto has the tools to beat mayweather. It will take a perfect gameplan, and mindset, but he can do it. I also think pre fight analysis is redundant in the sense of determining a winner, but mayweather really needs to fight cotto.

                The fight shoulda taken place in 08. But now, for floyd to just choose canelo is inexcusable imo, the fight needs to happen.

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                • Juof
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                  #198
                  3 years ago most people said cotto said would beat mayweather and that may was ducking him now since then he gets his ass whooped and all the hype fades same thing will happen to pacquiao

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                  • 915angel
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                    #199
                    lol cotto "dinosaur arms"

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                    • EdWins
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by akScoundrel
                      Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather.

                      Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred.

                      I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming.
                      I have a lot of respect for Cotto but to beat Mayweather? Nah, never.

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