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  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    You can name 400 fighters over Duran doesn't mean anything....Foreman? I guess.
    how's duran greater then foreman.


    please explain............

    I'm waiting for this..............

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    • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      Duran's the consensus GOAT at Lightweight. Of course he's going to get consideration for top-5 p4p.

      Poet
      is that so?

      I guess the general population that make up the consensus don't remember Benny Leonard.

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        You know? It's just ****ing idiotic. He should just admit he doesn't know anything about them and jog the **** on.....

        Poet

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        • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
          You know, I wasn't planning on posting again but referring to Loughran and Gibbons as "nobodies" is just too ****ing ignorant to let pass. You obviously don't know **** about the sport you're attempting to comment on. The next time the subject of fighters from further back than ten years ago comes up you should keep your mouth shut instead of talking out of your ass.

          Poet


          Nice to see you back.

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          • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            You know? It's just ****ing idiotic. He should just admit he doesn't know anything about them and jog the **** on.....

            Poet
            Oh I understand, trust me.

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            • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              LOL @ the Oscar argument. You have to be kidding me.
              I gotta head out but I'll be back for you. You're one of the main critics of "accomplishments".

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              • Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                Whitaker was in the P4P list when DLH fought him. I think he was #1 or #2.

                Since you want to talk about being past their prime....you might as well take 99% of the big wins from everyone in boxing. From Tyson to Lewis to Floyd, etc.

                Whitaker lost that fight. He should of let his hands go more instead of being all flashy with his defense. It was close but Oscar won it. Defensive style fans would disagree but 1 punch compared to 5 just won't cut it for me.
                No, Whitaker was slipping fast and was not considered the number one p4p fighter at that time. Roy Jones jr was along with Oscar.In fact Oscar had passed Whitaker in the mythical ratings in most people's eyes and was favored to beat Whitaker.

                Here is an example of how the p4p ratings looked at that time.





                http://www.theboxinghistorian.com/ri...-pound-history


                1996

                1. Roy Jones Jr.
                2. Oscar De La Hoya
                3. Pernell Whitaker
                4. Felix Trinidad
                5. Ricardo Lopez
                6. Junior Jones
                7. Kostya Tszyu
                8. Terry Norris
                9. Evander Holyfield
                10. Mark Johnson

                1997

                KO Magazine
                1. Oscar De La Hoya
                2. Roy Jones Jr.
                3. Felix Trinidad
                4. Pernell Whitaker
                5. Evander Holyfield
                6. Terry Norris
                7. Junior Jones
                8. Ricardo Lopez
                9. Ike Quartey
                10. Mark Johnson


                As far as beating prime fighters, you're right. Most don't do it which is why the fighters that accomplish this should not be compared to fighters that have not done this. You see this a lot here with the Ali/Klitschko debates. Ali beating a prime Foreman is a bigger win than any heavyweight can come up with on their resume imo.
                Last edited by joseph5620; 01-25-2012, 04:09 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                  I gotta head out but I'll be back for you. You're one of the main critics of "accomplishments".
                  Come back with something of substance.

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                  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    Nice to see you back.
                    Thank you, I don't know if I'm staying but I couldn't let a comment like that go by. I'm human, there's only so much ignorance I can take without blowing a gasket.....

                    Poet

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                    • Originally posted by Harry Balls View Post
                      is that so?

                      I guess the general population that make up the consensus don't remember Benny Leonard.
                      I don't think anyone putting Leonard, Gans or Duran at #1 is wrong. I can live with either of those 3 guys in the top spot.

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