If Cotto beats Pacquiao does he ranked above Mayweather?

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  • daggum
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    #121
    this thread is getting stale. time to promote chris john some more. on march 31st chris john will go for the almighty 47-0 breaking the tie between him and joe calzaghe. wish him luck! you know he's gonna need it against TBA.

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      #122
      Originally posted by daggum
      this thread is getting stale. time to promote chris john some more. on march 31st chris john will go for the almighty 47-0 breaking the tie between him and joe calzaghe. wish him luck! you know he's gonna need it against TBA.
      Chris John has some draws on his record.

      Mosley never needed a draw to keep his lightweight title

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        #123
        Originally posted by Rocky Rode
        I don't remember where Mosley was ranked when Cotto fought him, but I do know Mosley was the lineal champion when Floyd fought him. Mosley was coming off one the best performances of his career. Was he a better fighter? I doubt it, but he was ranked at the top of his division.

        Many people thought Clottey beat Cotto. But for the record, I put Clottey in the same category as Zab Judah. He was never an elite fighter and always found a way to lose fights.
        i disagree. if clottey had more hype he could have been undefeated going into the pac fight. the margarito fight was super close(i scored it a draw) the cotto fight was super close(i scored it for clottey by 1) the baldomir fight was an easy win until he was unfairly dq'd, and he beat judah. he was just as good as the best welterweights in the world he just didn't get the benefit that popular fighters get. judah proved he was not. judah beat spinks but he clearly lost to spinks 1, baldomir, mayweather, cotto, and clottey. he couldn't compete with the best.

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        • Canelo Phresh
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          #124
          the ts actually thinks that jabs shouldnt count in hit accuracy percentages so that way manny pacquiao will have a higher connect rate than floyd. he made a whole thread about it. this guy licks pacquiaos nuts to the highest degree and hates on floyd for everything. seriously dont feed this troll.

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          • daggum
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            #125
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Chris John has some draws on his record.

            Mosley never needed a draw to keep his lightweight title
            julio cesar chavez jr has a draw on his record. are you gonna tell me he isn't great?

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              #126
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Yeah they are not as good as, Cesar Bazan and Seung-Ho Yuh
              Too bad the likes of Johnston and Casamayor are as good either.

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                #127
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Mosley was a phenomenon, everyone knew how good Mosley was. Cherry pick? don't think so.

                Mosley has been beating up Oscar since they 12 and 10.
                If you would have followed the sport at the time. You might have a clue of what you speak of.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Too bad the likes of Johnston and Casamayor are as good either.
                  Cezar Bazan is about as good as anyone Shane Mosley faced at Lightweight.

                  Atleast Cesar Bazan was not only ranked, but ranked in the Top 5 of his Division at the time.

                  Something we can't say about many of Mosley's wins at Lightweight.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Cezar Bazan is about as good as anyone Shane Mosley faced at Lightweight.

                    Atleast Cesar Bazan was not only ranked, but ranked in the Top 5 of his Division at the time.

                    Something we can't say about many of Mosley's wins at Lightweight.
                    People just see Mosley record at LW...Which was what 33-0 with 30ko's? Or something like that at LW. So the idea is wow he's amazing. But, they're not looking at who he actually fought and when he fought them.

                    Castillo resume at LW is greater than Mosley. I don't even like Oscar and his resume is greater than Mosley at LW. Hell some of Mosley best wins at LW were Oscar leftovers.

                    Mosley didn't even fight the best LW at the time. Which was Stevie Johnston. Mosley didn't fight the best guy. And, that would have been a damn good fight. A tough fight for Mosley IMO.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      People just see Mosley record at LW...Which was what 33-0 with 30ko's? Or something like that at LW. So the idea is wow he's amazing. But, they're not looking at who he actually fought and when he fought them.

                      Castillo resume at LW is greater than Mosley. I don't even like Oscar and his resume is greater than Mosley at LW. Hell some of Mosley best wins at LW were Oscar leftovers.

                      Mosley didn't even fight the best LW at the time. Which was Stevie Johnston. Mosley didn't fight the best guy. And, that would have been a damn good fight. A tough fight for Mosley IMO.
                      People just don't know ****.

                      The fact you have idiot's on this thread talking down to other's whilst in the same breath claiming Shane Mosley was one of the best Lightweight's ever is a joke.

                      The fact Title Defenses are used to justify idiocy is a joke. And it's becoming increasing to use that reasoning.

                      I understand not everyone is into the History and prefer to focus on modern times. And that's fine.

                      I just hate when people make brash, ******, uneducated and ignorant statements concerning the history of the sport when it's obvious they don't know ****.

                      I'll never understand why people feel the need to make comment's on things they clearly know nothing about. Why bother?

                      It's disrespectful to the sport.

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